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Do guns kill people or do people kill people?

What's your choice and why?
 
People kill people, and tool which they used, and which is specifically designed for killing people, is the gun.

But then, I have always said that the itself in fact does not kill people, bullets do.
And there is nothing in the constitution about the right own bullets. So let people keep their guns and restrict access to ammunition. problem solved :)
 
People kill people, tools used to do so depends on the person. A gun, a sword, another person or their own fists. They are all tools in one form or another, viewed as a tool for some and by some not. It doesn't matter what carries out the deed, the deed would never have been carried out had it not been for the mind behind it.​
 
ʏᴇᴏᴜ said:
People kill people, tools used to do so depends on the person. A gun, a sword, another person or their own fists. They are all tools in one form or another, viewed as a tool for some and by some not. It doesn't matter what carries out the deed, the deed would never have been carried out had it not been for the mind behind it.​

and like a sword, it is a tool designed and built for maximum destruction and taking lives.

True other tools could be used for killing, like an axe, but the difference is that an axe is designed and built for chopping wood and not built with the intention of being used to kill. A gun is built for one purpose, which is to provide the 'killer' with the tool to kill.
 
seasidemike said:
and like a sword, it is a tool designed and built for maximum destruction and taking lives.

True other tools could be used for killing, like an axe, but the difference is that an axe is designed and built for chopping wood and not built with the intention of being used to kill.  A gun is built for one purpose, which is to provide the 'killer' with the tool to kill.

A sword could be designed for protection, or as a gift of valor. The same sense goes with a gun, nothing is ever really created for purely a single thing. We give meaning to the things around us, in that sense, everything has different uses. A bomb can be used for fear, killing, protection, hope and a lot more depending on who you ask.​
 
People were killing other people a LONG TIME before the firearm was invented.

And if every 'gun' suddenly vanished from the planet, those who seek to intentionally do harm to others will find a way to do it.

Such as:

Teen mum fighting for life after axe-wielding boyfriend chops off her tongue

Jan 06, 2015
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/teen-mum-fighting-life-after-4927480
 
DrLeftover said:
People were killing other people a LONG TIME before the firearm was invented.

And if every 'gun' suddenly vanished from the planet, those who seek to intentionally do harm to others will find a way to do it.

Such as:


Teen mum fighting for life after axe-wielding boyfriend chops off her tongue

Jan 06, 2015
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/teen-mum-fighting-life-after-4927480

yes, the gun is the evolution of killing tools.
 
seasidemike said:
yes, the gun is the evolution of killing tools.

Yet, poison or a dagger to the heart is far more efficient. A poison can be used as a cure, a dagger can be used to serve food for the hungry. A gun can be used to kill or protect your loved ones, or as a decoration and gift for people interested in construction and art.​
 
ʏᴇᴏᴜ said:
seasidemike said:
yes, the gun is the evolution of killing tools.

Yet, poison or a dagger to the heart is far more efficient. A poison can be used as a cure, a dagger can be used to serve food for the hungry. A gun can be used to kill or protect your loved ones, or as a decoration and gift for people interested in construction and art.​

yes, I am sure that the weapons industry is interested in the artistic side of gun design because they make such nice decorations. Perhaps that ring that goes around the trigger is really there so it can be hung on the branch of a Christmas tree :lol:
 
seasidemike said:
yes, I am sure that the weapons industry is interested in the artistic side of gun design because they make such nice decorations. Perhaps that ring that goes around the trigger is really there so it can be hung on the branch of a Christmas tree   :lol:

Tell me, what do you see when you see a stick? I see a piece of wood, a spear, an arrow, a bow, a torch, a tool to make food, a tool to catch fish, a decoration tool, a tool to build a home for a family. Do you mean that nature is only interested in the killing part of a stick? Where as it doesn't care for the other uses of it?​
 
ʏᴇᴏᴜ said:
seasidemike said:
yes, I am sure that the weapons industry is interested in the artistic side of gun design because they make such nice decorations. Perhaps that ring that goes around the trigger is really there so it can be hung on the branch of a Christmas tree   :lol:

Tell me, what do you see when you see a stick? I see a piece of wood, a spear, an arrow, a bow, a torch, a tool to make food, a tool to catch fish, a decoration tool, a tool to build a home for a family. Do you mean that nature is only interested in the killing part of a stick? Where as it doesn't care for the other uses of it?​

You kind of lost me on this point.... a stick grown in nature usually as a branch of a tree or something.
A gun is designed and manufactured as a weapon.
I don't see the comparison between the two.

Other than ya, you can use a stick in many ways... I guess you can use a gun in many ways as well, but the basic fundamental design of a gun, is that it is a weapon.
 
seasidemike said:
You kind of lost me on this point.... a stick grown in nature usually as a branch of a tree or something.
A gun is designed and manufactured as a weapon.
I don't see the comparison between the two.

Other than ya, you can use a stick in many ways... I guess you can use a gun in many ways as well, but the basic fundamental design of a gun, is that it is a weapon.

A gun uses materials that nature has created, its only placed together to create something new using human technology. In the same manner, a stick can be placed together with other tools to create a weapon or something else. That is the comparison between the two. A gun is nothing more but a collection of resources that fires off a projectile.

The basic fundamental design of a gun can be viewed in many ways, as a weapon, a decoration, a tool, a gift or something else. It all depends on who you ask and what they see in it. If the situation requires it, a gun is a weapon, otherwise it may be a hammer or a wall decoration. Its not purely a weapon or anything, it has many uses.

A gun originates from the invention of gunpowder which was original found through a search for immortality. Gunpowder also led to the creation of fireworks to scare away evil spirits in ancient China. Would you say that fireworks is primarily a weapon as well? As it comes from the same fundamental design and idea as a gun.​
 
ʏᴇᴏᴜ said:
People kill people, tools used to do so depends on the person. A gun, a sword, another person or their own fists. They are all tools in one form or another, viewed as a tool for some and by some not. It doesn't matter what carries out the deed, the deed would never have been carried out had it not been for the mind behind it.​

I agree.  Inanimate objects like this can't operate themselves.

I suppose we won't account for guns being left around children and mentally unstable people. Accidents happen and I'd say whoever didn't have the gun properly secured is at fault in that scenario.
 
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