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why trust the mainstream media?

And here is a guy who breaks down this stupid and racist myth step by step from the comment section no less!

The table tries to "prove" the claim that the American media is controlled by Jews by showing the supposed large number of Jewish executives in media companies. Before we go over the factual errors and the misrepresentation, we need to address the faulty logic behind this attempt at proof. The table shows us the executives of the companies, while executives have power over the content generated by their company, it is arguably lesser than the influence held by people actually creating the content itself - the writers, reporters, directors, actors, producers, editors and other people involved with the creative process. The table doesn't try to explain why does the Steven Spielberg, as the founder of Dreamworks animation, has more influence on the American media and culture than Steven Spielberg, as the director who won two Oscars on WWII films, one depicting the life of a German businessman who saved Jews during the Holocaust, and one depicting the exploits of a squad of American soldiers looking for another soldier on the western front of WWII.

The table also puts Vice Presidents of a company as having the same influence as CEOs, Presidents and Chairpersons of the board, which is not true for all VPs. One example is the Associated Press; their site, shows they have eight VPs. Of those, the author of the table chose to put Jessica Bruce, the director of HR, and Kathleen Carroll, the executive editor. Surely the head of HR doesn't have the same influence as the executive editor. Moreover the VPs who control the financial aspects didn't made the list. Surely if a CEO controls content because they control the money, the Chief Financial Officer of AP should make the list of influential figures together with (if not instead of) the head of HR. AP is not the only company with more executives that the table claims. NBC entertainment has 28 executives listed on their site. Google has 6 executive officers and another 7 senior leaders. The same goes to Fox News, The New York Times and many others.

The table includes the founders of a company, many of whom - like Walt Disney, Carl Laemmle, Albert Warner and others - have been dead for decades, and could no longer have direct influence on the American media and culture.

The table doesn't differentiate between media that generates independent content and media which is merely a platform for user generated content. For example, the News channels and film companies create their own content, while the content that appears on Facebook, Google and YouTube is not generated by the owners or employees but by the users. Nine of the ten most subscribed YouTube channels by days are operated by private non-Jewish people, and one is the official channel of YouTube.

It also doesn't differentiate between demographics. Disney appeals to younger demographic than News companies. The demographic a company appeals to can be very influential on its effect on the media as the susceptibility of people changes with age.

It is misrepresentative as there are many people who appear several times in the table, people like Mark Zuckerberg, Rupert Murdoch, Marissa Mayer and others. So a person like Mark Zuckerberg, who is the President, CEO, Founder, owner and chairman of Facebook appears more times on the table than the President and CEO of a major news network (Roger Ailes from Fox News).

The table is cherry-pickeded. Not every company has been put on the table. e.g. Facebook is on, but not Instagram, Twitter and other social platforms. The table includes MTV but not VH1, Marvel but not DC comics. I'm sure that there are other major media companies which are absent from the table.

The question of whether a person is Jewish or not can be complicated, as there is a duality of religion and nationality. According to Jewish religious law, everyone who is born to a Jewish mother is a Jew. The only other way to become a Jew is through a conversion process. But once a person is a Jew (whether by birth or otherwise), in the eyes of the religious law that person will always stay a Jew, even if they convert to another religion. A person born to a Jewish father and a non Jewish mother is, at the eyes of the religious law and tradition, isn't a Jew.

Many people are atheist, but see their Jewish heritage as a cultural heritage, in a way familiar to Americans with Irish, German, Italian and other ancestors in the USA. A good example for this is Jon Stewart, who isn't a religious person, yet on his show he constantly talks about his Jewish heritage, about the Jewish traditions and identifies with Jewish stereotypes.

Finally, for the sake of this answer we must accept the criteria that is put by the claim. The claim is made by a racist society that tries to convince us that there is a Jewish conspiracy to take over the media/banks/world. They are not very interested in the religious and cultural identity of each individual, so for the sake of this answer, I take the broadest definition possible: who ever has Jewish ancestry from either side of their family or is a converted Jew. So under this definition, everyone who is a Jew according to the Jewish religion is counted, as well as whoever has Jewish ancestry only from their father's side. It will include atheist and non practicing Jews, as well as Jews who converted to another religion (if there are any who are relevant). This is a very broad definition and it will also include people like Benjamin Disraeli, Karl Marx. If there are any people who were Jews but latter converted, I'll note that.

More on who is a Jew can be read in the Wikipedia article, and on other sources online (The Economist, JewFAQ.com...).

Some of the sources for showing that a person is not Jewish, are racist blogs with no sources. This is only used when no other better sources are found, and under the assumption that a racist blog will not let a Jew or even a suspected Jew to "escape".

This is still a work in progress, as going over all the names takes time.

From now on the specific claims of the table will be checked, I only check the ethnicity of the people mentioned, not whether they hold the position claimed in the table.

People in the table, and whether they are in fact Jewish:
Incorrect

Deb Finan - Jew in table but not really Jewish, source: racist blog
Phil Griffin - Jew in table, but not really Jewish, only married to one. source: racist blog
Marissa Mayer - Jew in table but not really Jewish. source: Wikipedia
Steve Jobs - Jew in table but not really Jewish. source: Wikipedia
Eric Schmidt - Not a Jew in reality. source: theAlgemeiner.com, but appears in the table several times, and in one of the times (as the chairman of CNN) he appears as a Jew, while in all other he isn't.
Arianna Huffington - Not a Jew in reality. source: Wikipedia but appears in the table several times, and in one of the times (as the co-founder of Huff post) she appears as a Jew, while in all other he isn't.

Correct

Vivian Schiller - Jew in Table and reality. source: Tabletmag.com
Mark Zuckerberg - Jew in Table and reality. source: Wikipedia
Larry Page - Jew in Table and reality. source: Wikipedia
Sergey Brin - Jew in Table and reality. source: Wikipedia
Jeffrey Katzenberg - Jew in Table and reality. source: Wikipedia
Steven Spielberg - Jew in Table and reality. source: Wikipedia
David Geffen - Jew in Table and reality. source: Wikipedia
Rupert Murdoch - Not a Jew in the table and in reality. source: Wikipedia
Hutch Parker - Not a Jew in the table and in reality. source: racist blog
Ronald Meyer - Jew in Table and reality. source: Wikipedia
Thomas Rothman - Jew in Table and reality. source: Wikipedia
William Fox - Jew in Table and reality. source: Wikipedia
Joseph Schenck - Jew in Table and reality. source: Wikipedia
James Schamus - Jew in Table and reality. sources: some blog and The New York Times
Carl Laemmle - Jew in Table and reality. source: Wikipedia
Ted Turner - Not a Jew in the table and in reality. source: Wikipedia
Leslie Moonves - Jew in Table and reality. source: Wikipedia
Dana Walden - Jew in Table and reality. source: abbanibi.com
Sheryl Sandberg - Jew in Table and reality. source: Wikipedia
Nikesh Arora - Not a Jew in the table and in reality. source: racist blog
Robert Iger - Jew in Table and reality. source: Wikipedia
Sumner Redstone (Rothstein) - Jew in Table and reality. source: Wikipedia
Roger Ailes - Not a Jew in the table and in reality. source: TheJewishWeek.com
Brian Lewis - Not a Jew in the table, I couldn't find any confirmation of his religion or ethnicity, but since the table puts his as a non-Jew, I'm applying the "racist blog" rule here and accept this with the disputed claim as the source.
Stacey Snider - Jew in Table and reality. source: Jewish Women's Archive
The Warner Brothers - Jews in the Table and reality. source: Wikipedia
Paul Reuter - Jew in Table and reality. source: Wikipedia
Ralph Waldo Emerson - Not a Jew in the table and in reality. source: Wikipedia
Henry Longfellow - Not a Jew in the table and in reality. source: Unitarian Church of Quincy

Undetermined

Kathy Keller-Brown - Jew in table, couldn't verify either way.
Patricia Fili-Krushel - Jew in table, couldn't verify either way. She did chair an event of the UJA-Federation of New York.
Tom Rogers - Jew in table, couldn't verify either way.
John Nicol - Jew in table, couldn't verify either way.
alvy ray smith - Jew in table, couldn't verify either way.
Lew Coleman - Jew in table, couldn't verify ether way.
Adam Fogelson - Jew in Table, couldn't verify ether way. His last name is Jewish
Jennifer Salke - Jew in table, couldn't verify ether way.
Robert Merrick - Jew in table, couldn't verify ether way.
John Lasseter - Jew in table, couldn't verify ether way.
Holly Bario - Jew in table, couldn't verify ether way.

The table also puts NBC Universal as the owner of MSNBC, Time Warner as the owner of HBO and The Woodbridge Company as the owners of Reuters, and puts them as half jewish and half not. It also puts Hearst Corporation as the owner of Cosmopolitan and puts it as non Jew. Corporations don't have religion, race or ethnicity.
http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/19974/are-american-media-controlled-mostly-by-jews
 
seasidemike said:
Never put your eggs in one basket when it comes to news. the best thing is to find as much information from as many sources as possible, and thankfully with the internet now this is possible.

I usually read UK and US websites for news, I think that's good enough. :P
 
seasidemike said:
and here they do it again!  and this is serious, do they not understand their responsibilities? do they not understand the impact they have of reporting false information?

A Baltimore Fox station had to apologize to Black Lives Matter protester, Tawanda Jones, after they were busted for deceptively editing a protest chant to say "Kill a cop."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/12/23/1353803/-Fox-affiliate-apologizes-to-editing-protesters-chants-to-say-Kill-a-cop#

lets see how many people will forget that those chants were fake and/or will not know it's fake and believe the protester(s) said such things...

i love it when stuff comes out, people jump all over it and say things about stuff, then it's proven that the thing was faked and the people will still fight among each other and still believe what the media tells them and not think for themselves...
 
So, is this one real or not?

18 Dec

Al Jazeera correspondent narrates horror of school massacre in Pakistan's Peshawar that left scores of students killed.

"Please don't switch the light on, my brother has just fallen asleep," Waqar Amin whispered to us as we tiptoed into orthopaedic ward number seven where many of the young boys with wounds were being kept.

It was nearly two in the morning when I reached Peshawar's Lady Reading Hospital after a school came under attack by gunmen on Tuesday. Waqar told us that two of his brothers went to the Army Public School and both of them had been shot - one in the waist and the other in the head. Waqar is a police constable and his family sent the boys to the military-run school for better education.

Despite attacks on schools and civilians, no one in Pakistan expected children would be massacred in the heart of one of the most secure areas in the city of Peshawar.

Waqar says he received a call from his brother asking him to come to the school as "terrorists" had entered the premises. He was scared and there was heavy firing in the background. Then the line disconnected and Waqar feared the worst had happened.

He rushed to the school where a few military guards were standing helplessly before help arrived. They saw children lying on the ground in the distance but no one could do anything for them as bullets whizzed past them when they tried to get close.

"Then the phone rang after I had called it a hundred times," said Waqar. "My brother told me that he's been shot and everyone around him was dead except for one of his friends. His friend was scared too and then my brother said I have to hang up someone is coming".

It was one of the worst places to be. Waqar was standing outside the school knowing full well that his brother is in imminent danger inside and he could do nothing.
http://blogs.aljazeera.com/blog/asia/wash-my-blood-stained-bag-mama
 
DrLeftover said:
+Holy Ghost said:
not sure what that post is all about there @drleftover, care to explain? :|

Is the Al Jazeera story about the attack on the school in Pakistan based on a REAL incident or NOT?

not sure, haven't looked into it...

all i can say is it's a 50/50...

it's easier than ever to fake anything, including school shootings, funerals, news reports, videos of beheadings, pictures of anything, etc. etc. for ratings and/or propaganda reasons...

that's why i'm always skeptical with any news i get...

what are your thoughts? :|
 
well, with-out looking into it and for what i can see, i'll take a guess and say real...

but looks can be deceiving...
 
It is real what these thugs say.


Ferguson Protesters Celebrate Christmas By Singing ‘Deck The Halls With Rows of Dead Cops’
Daily Caller


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=X5c2mWY8qpQ
http://dailycaller.com/2014/12/28/ferguson-protesters-celebrate-christmas-by-singing-deck-the-halls-with-rows-of-dead-cops/
 
TRUE LIBERTY said:
It is real what these thugs say.



Ferguson Protesters Celebrate Christmas By Singing ‘Deck The Halls With Rows of Dead Cops’
Daily Caller


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=X5c2mWY8qpQ
http://dailycaller.com/2014/12/28/ferguson-protesters-celebrate-christmas-by-singing-deck-the-halls-with-rows-of-dead-cops/

There are those who conveniently ignore what others have seen and heard themselves coming from the mouths, and signs, of similar individuals nation wide. There was a group of baggy pants'ed members of The Community down by our county courthouse for a couple of weeks (when it was warmer outside) holding signs and rapping about killing cops. I decided against getting my van windows broken out by those peaceful and loving individuals and didn't take a picture of their rather pathetic demonstration.

But such events don't suit the agenda of those looking to prove whatever they're out to prove, so it either doesn't exist, or was manufactured by the evil Jews.

Right?
 
And if you watch the video you can see these low life protesters do not give one rats ass about the elderly trying to get on a bus or the mother trying to get home for her son. These people are society anarchists and need to be treated as harshly as possible when interfering with peoples means of travel.
 
i'm sure no one mentions that a group of mostly white righties are the top cop-killer in america...

Sovereign Citizens Are America’s Top Cop-Killers
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/11/25/sovereign-citizens-are-america-s-top-cop-killers.html

but of course, lets keep talking about the blackies that the cops actually harass, profile, beat and kill...

the righties love to try to spin things and blame others due to cops constant hate, disrespect and god-like mentality against the blackies that keeps the racism alive for the most part...
 
Pardon me.

You who spout absolute and total distrust of the mainstream media are hanging your hat on a blog post on the Daily Beast by Caitlin Dickson?

Didn't you think it odd that she kept using the phrase "sovereign citizens" in the article. That should have set off alarm bells and made you go find out what in the sheer blooming hell she was talking about. And when you did, and checked out other articles she's written, you'd see that her objectivity is somewhat questionable at best.

Unless that doesn't matter any more.
 
these christian righties?

http://sovereign-citizenship.net/home.html


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citizen_movement

The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) classifies some sovereign citizens ("sovereign citizen extremists") as a domestic terrorist movement. In 2010 the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) estimated that approximately 100,000 Americans were "hard-core sovereign believers" with another 200,000 "just starting out by testing sovereign techniques for resisting everything from speeding tickets to drug charges."

A 2014 report by the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism stated that a survey of law-enforcement officials and agencies across the United States concluded that the movement was the single greatest threat to their communities, ranking above Islamic terrorists and jihadists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Consortium_for_the_Study_of_Terrorism_and_Responses_to_Terrorism


nice try @drleftover, you're welcome...
 
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and:
http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2009/september/domterror_090709

also:
http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2010/april/sovereigncitizens_041310/domestic-terrorism-the-sovereign-citizen-movement
 
That reads like a cheap conspiracy novel. That author wants to blame this so called group for all the ills happening against law enforcement. But..............

Sovereign citizens are not explicitly violent, but over the past few years the number of lone wolf attacks on law enforcement by followers of the movement, have prompted the FBI to consider sovereign citizens a major domestic terrorism threat. This summer, the University of Maryland’s National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism released the results of a study finding sovereign citizens are perceived to be the single greatest threat to law enforcement, above Islamist extremists and patriot or militia groups.

And then at the end of this cheap novel this perceived threat is just those horrible retired and ex cops anyways who are part of this movement and then a few token other professions. This article is funny and contradicts itself several times. PERCEIVED threat it says but not actual threat.


Paudert is sure to acknowledge that sovereign citizens have the same rights as all Americans and that they are not all dangerous. He also notes that it a growing movement, attracting people from all over the country and all over the professional spectrum, from out-of-work truck drivers to law enforcement officers, TSA agents, and business professionals, most initially attracted by the opposition to taxes and federal government power.
 
+Justice said:
these christian righties?

http://sovereign-citizenship.net/home.html


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citizen_movement


The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) classifies some sovereign citizens ("sovereign citizen extremists") as a domestic terrorist movement. In 2010 the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) estimated that approximately 100,000 Americans were "hard-core sovereign believers" with another 200,000 "just starting out by testing sovereign techniques for resisting everything from speeding tickets to drug charges."

A 2014 report by the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism stated that a survey of law-enforcement officials and agencies across the United States concluded that the movement was the single greatest threat to their communities, ranking above Islamic terrorists and jihadists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Consortium_for_the_Study_of_Terrorism_and_Responses_to_Terrorism


nice try @drleftover, you're welcome...

Wikipedia used for facts. :rofl:
 
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