Wolf-whistling

[Dee]

In my oppinion the countries gone mad, people find every thing offensive these days.

A man thinks a woman is hot, or visa versa they whistle. WOW big deal!!!! I smile. Its a compliment to me, that doesnt make me cheap, that makes me apprieate that I look freaking good!!
Making it an offense to wolf whistle is pathetic, what happened to freedom of speech? Its another waste of police resources.

It may be okay to you and some other women, but it is incredibly offensive to many other women--including myself--and not the way I want to be acknowledged by a man who thinks I'm pretty. I don't feel there's any madness behind that. Why? Because it's degrading and focuses only on the fact that the man is looking at me in a sexual, aesthetic manner, which doesn't mean shit to me because I am more than just a physical body. Nor do I want to be acknowledged solely because of that. No one is saying YOU, Raven, are cheap or that you don't appreciate it, but enough women have spoken out against it that it's becoming a problem. Often times it leads to unwanted attention, stalking, and an overall feeling that you're being watched, and if you don't respond the "right" way there's something wrong with you or you're an uptight bitch who can't handle a "compliment."

 

[DirtRider]

Reading this thread it seems to be a huge problem your side and I must say I don't think it is the same my side.

 

[Dee]

Reading this thread it seems to be a huge problem your side and I must say I don't think it is the same my side.

Women are typically regarded as sexual objects, sexually objectified, and that is the culture of our society. So when one sex is overtly seen as a sex object or something to be desired sexually, other aspects of women are ignored. It's merely a matter of trying to get with them in the end. Any interest in the other stuff comes later, if at all.

 

[DirtRider]

Of COURSE he was...did you see what he was wearing?!? Tight t-shirt, even tighter jeans (leaving NOthing to the imagination) and a come-hither smirk on his face...

Should he not be provided the right to walk around dressed as he wants without being harassed by people around him, just like the ladies feel the same way

So the question here is what would you ladies consider a compliment from a stranger then?

Interesting reaction to this lady walking down the street

Women are typically regarded as sexual objects, sexually objectified, and that is the culture of our society. So when one sex is overtly seen as a sex object or something to be desired sexually, other aspects of women are ignored. It's merely a matter of trying to get with them in the end. Any interest in the other stuff comes later, if at all.

As I said this does not seem to be the the same my side, then I suppose each country does and sees things differently

 

[Dee]

A compliment is going to be different for everyone--men and women included. That doesn't mean you have to walk around on eggshells, but there is definitely a more broad, universal way of being subtle and polite. HEY! A smile might do. Guys, remember when they told you not to stare at the sun or you may go blind? Don't stare at the breasts hanging out of a woman's shirt either. Make eye contact. And if she responds with a smile and she doesn't look like she's in a rush or busy, perhaps you could politely excuse and then greet yourself. It's not rocket science. It's social cues. Learn about them.

 

[mrldii]

Should he not be provided the right to walk around dressed as he wants without being harassed by people around him, just like the ladies feel the same way

So the question here is what would you ladies consider a compliment from a stranger then?

Interesting reaction to this lady walking down the street

Yeah...I get that sarcasm doesn't come through online/with the written word; I'd already made the point that how HE is dressed is ALSO not part of the equation.


As to the "So the question here is what would you ladies consider a compliment from a stranger then?", before I - as a "lady" [HAHAHAHAHAHAHA] - can answer that, I first must know:

1. Why is it presumed that receiving "a compliment from a stranger" on the street is a necessary component to social constructs?

2. We are taught at a very young age "Don't talk to strangers" so at what age DOES it become mandatory that we MUST "compliment strangers" on the street or the little wheels will fall off society?

And, 3. What - dafuq - would happen if people stopped "complimenting strangers" on the street by letting others know, "Yeah, baby...I like what I'M seeing!!!"? Will we self-combust and therefore die off as a species sooner than Mother Nature is working to get rid of us?

 

[DirtRider]

Why is it presumed that receiving "a compliment from a stranger" on the street is a necessary component to social constructs?

Glad I live in a smaller community where interacting with your fellow human is seen as being a good thing even if you don't know them

I cannot even count the number of times a total stranger has come up to my wife when we were out and told her "Wow X looks stunning"

X =
Your hair
Your dress
Your top
Your mark-up
and so on

 

[Dee]

Glad I live in a smaller community where interacting with your fellow human is seen as being a good thing even if you don't know them

The small-town community is vastly different than a city of over 100k+ people, or even 60k or 40k, and you'd be stupid to think otherwise. Hell, I live in a city that isn't all that big and we've only got around 600k people here. I can definitely imagine the difference living in a city of over a million or even a couple million people. I know I sure as hell wouldn't want to wander around downtown Los Angeles by myself, or even certain parts of any other major city because cat-calling would be the least of my worries.

 

[mrldii]

Glad I live in a smaller community where interacting with your fellow human is seen as being a good thing even if you don't know them

I cannot even count the number of times a total stranger has come up to my wife when we were out and told her "Wow X looks stunning"

X =
Your hair
Your dress
Your top
Your mark-up
and so on

How'd you feel if X =

Your tits
Your ass

and/or if X = "Yo, baby...I'd sure like to do _________ to your ________", while grabbing their crotch for extra emphasis?


Yeah. THAT'S what goes on here, in the good ol' U.S. of A. where we DO have a Constitutionally-protected right to free speech...and are NOT afraid to use it.

 

[DirtRider]

Well our small community comprises of around 1, 5 million people

 

[DirtRider]

How'd you feel if X =

Your tits
Your ass

and/or if X = "Yo, baby...I'd sure like to do _________ to your ________", while grabbing their crotch for extra emphasis?


Yeah. THAT'S what goes on here, in the good ol' U.S. of A. where we DO have a Constitutionally-protected right to free speech...and are NOT afraid to use it.

And that is what I said earlier that is not the way we roll my side

 

[Dee]

Well our small community comprises of around 1, 5 million people

I wouldn't consider that a small community.

 

[DirtRider]

To us it is and a friendly one at that.

 

[mrldii]

And that is what I said earlier that is not the way we roll my side

That's the way it rolls here, as evidenced by the film footage you're seeing...and you, yourself, are supplying. That's what's also being discussed, here.

 

[DirtRider]

I see that but struggle to get my head around it all. Then I suppose not being exposed to it I do find it hard to understand

 

[Dee]

I see that but struggle to get my head around it all. Then I suppose not being exposed to it I do find it hard to understand

It's not unreasonable that you wouldn't understand it if you have never experienced it. That's just human nature. It's hard to truly understand something unless you experience it yourself, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist and that doesn't mean it isn't offensive. For instance, I don't know what it's like to be a guy; thus, I don't know what it's like to get random boners at the most embarrassing times. I also don't know what it's like to grow up expected to be manly in many different ways. I don't know what it's like to live out on the streets. I don't know what it's like to be black and get singled out for my skin color. I'm not gay, so I don't know what it's like to be shamed, berated, and looked down upon for my sexuality. I don't know a lot of things, but I sure as hell don't try to downplay the things that happen to people or the experiences they go through.

 

[DirtRider]

No it is not that but more from a males point of view we just don't carry on like that this side when we see a sexy women or if she is looking great, so from that point of view I cannot get my head around that part. Also as we (males) don't go on like that our females have a different outlook as well on the subject. So basically if a women this side walks past a male and he has to say something like "Wow looking good" she takes it as a compliment as that was the way it was put across with no sexual intent mean unlike what you guys are experiencing.

 

[Mercedes01]

I usually yell back I'm telling your woman on you

 

[Dee]

No it is not that but more from a males point of view we just don't carry on like that this side when we see a sexy women or if she is looking great, so from that point of view I cannot get my head around that part. Also as we (males) don't go on like that our females have a different outlook as well on the subject. So basically if a women this side walks past a male and he has to say something like "Wow looking good" she takes it as a compliment as that was the way it was put across with no sexual intent mean unlike what you guys are experiencing.

That's where you lack the distinction, though. "Wow looking good" is purely focusing on aesthetics, which in turn leads to a physical and therefore sexual attraction. You play it off as innocent, but that's what it boils down to--that, "Hey, you are aesthetically pleasing to my eyes and therefore what gets my jollies from staring at your physically pleasing body," way of thinking.

 

[DirtRider]

Sorry I cannot agree with that as I can see the most unattractive person as looking great due to a hair style, an item of clothing and so on, with absolutely no physical attraction pinned to it at all. Take an 80 year old lady that might have really gone all out to look great and I complement her on it, it is just that a passing acknowledgement that she is looking great.

These days people seemed programmed to see the negative in everything even when there is no negative intended. Everything just seems to be either racialistic, sexists or anything else people can tag on a situation, how sad is that.