Violent influence?

[Randy]

Some video games are very violent. Do you think they influence their players to be violent in real life? If so, what should we do about it?

 

[Nebulous's iconNebulous]

Some video games are very violent. Do you think they influence their players to be violent in real life? If so, what should we do about it?

Thats hard to say. People were extremely violent in the middle ages (pretty much all throughout history) and they didn't have video games to blame it on.

 

[Merciless]

I don’t think so no, I think society influences violence way more than a video game that isn’t real.

 

[Nebulous's iconNebulous]

I don’t think so no, I think society influences violence way more than a video game that isn’t real.

Yeah video games are just harmless fun

 

[Merciless]

Yeah video games are just harmless fun

They really are, I don’t believe they influence anything really.

 

[Moonface]

I don't believe so. I spent an entire semester writing a paper on using video games in prisoner reformation programs, and the research I gathered painted a clear picture that they do more good than harm.

 

[Nebulous's iconNebulous]

I don't believe so. I spent an entire semester writing a paper on using video games in prisoner reformation programs, and the research I gathered painted a clear picture that they do more good than harm.

Nice, did you get a good grade on that paper?

 

[Webster]

Some video games are very violent. Do you think they influence their players to be violent in real life? If so, what should we do about it?

Nope.

Why? Because we humans are all very capable of violence and of committing violent acts because evil exists in the one place we can't eliminate: the human heart.

 

[Moonface]

Nice, did you get a good grade on that paper?

I got a perfect grade on it and the teacher now uses it as an example paper for future college classes. It ended up being about an 8 page paper in the end, but could've likely gone longer had there not been a page restriction.

 

[Nebulous's iconNebulous]

I got a perfect grade on it and the teacher now uses it as an example paper for future college classes. It ended up being about an 8 page paper in the end, but could've likely gone longer had there not been a page restriction.

Wow! Good job!

 

[Smiley]

Playing FPS games enticed me to join the army to see what it feels like to fire an actual weapon. I hated it, btw.

 

[Nebulous's iconNebulous]

Playing FPS games enticed me to join the army to see what it feels like to fire an actual weapon. I hated it, btw.

How many years did you do that?

 

[Duskpire]

Yeah video games are just harmless fun

I remember hearing about the debate that video games cause school shootings in the late 90's after Columbine. People blamed it all DOOM and bad parenting lol. The argument was later seen as fallacious and misleading.

Eric Harris was an enthusiast of the Doom series, owning some of the Doom novels and having designed Doom levels under the nicknames "REB", "Rebldomakr", and "RebDoomer". In a videotape recorded before the massacre, Harris expressed enthusiasm for the planned shooting, saying it would be like Doom. He also pointed out that the shotgun was "Straight out of Doom".

According to a statement made to government "investigators" of the Columbine massacre by then-CHS student David Proctor, who occasionally played Doom with Harris and Klebold via modem, Harris told him in 1999 that he'd created a level in Doom that was Columbine High School. Proctor added that another classmate had told him he'd heard the same. Though Harris did release several WADs, the alleged CHS level is not known to be on the Internet. After the massacre, many websites refused to provide downloads to any of the levels created by Harris, seeing the shooting as something from which the community should dissociate itself. While this position has largely dissipated, the maps are still rejected from inclusion on the idgames archive.

A PDF containing some of Harris' documents and personal writings [1] includes designs for some of his levels (page 112 onward). On page 272, Harris says "Doom is so burned into my head my thoughts usually have something to do with the game", while on page 321 he references the Doom novels. Harris also wrote about an idea for a seven level WAD known as Tier, though it is unknown if he actually went through with creating it. If he did finish making it, no copies of the WAD are known to be available to download.

Harris's UAC Labs WAD contains comments which appear somewhat disturbing in retrospect. For example, the description ends, "Good luck marine, and dont forget, KILL 'EM AAAAALLLL!!!!!", while the copyright section threatens, "You may NOT change a damn thing with this WAD, if you do, i will blow you up. And it will be cool". Two of Harris' WADs, Deathmatching in bricks! and Station, contain a new difficulty setting called "YA FREAKIN NUT!" as a replacement for the Nightmare! difficulty setting.

Columbine High School massacre

The Columbine High School massacre occurred on April 20, 1999 at Columbine High School in Jefferson County near Littleton, Colorado, United States. Two students, Eric David Harris, age 18, and Dylan Bennet Klebold, age 17, executed a planned shooting rampage killing 12 other students and a...

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[Kale]

Nope. I never have become violent over playing video games.

 

[PGen98]

I remember hearing about the debate that video games cause school shootings in the late 90's after Columbine. People blamed it all DOOM and bad parenting lol. The argument was later seen as fallacious and misleading.

Columbine High School massacre

The Columbine High School massacre occurred on April 20, 1999 at Columbine High School in Jefferson County near Littleton, Colorado, United States. Two students, Eric David Harris, age 18, and Dylan Bennet Klebold, age 17, executed a planned shooting rampage killing 12 other students and a...

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And Marilyn Manson, basically any scapegoat they could find

No, I don't think video games really influence people to do anything.

 

[Duskpire]

And Marilyn Manson, basically any scapegoat they could find

It wasn't their parent's fault though. These boys were almost adults, 17 years old. They had part time jobs and they bought those guns without their parent's knowledge. Eric Harris stated in his digital journal that he basically knew his parents would try to stop him if they knew what he was planning. Still, the victims sued Eric and Dylan's (The two shooters) parents anyway. I didn't agree with that. Their parents didn't give them those guns and say "hey go shoot up the school and when you're done, go kill yourselves!". I swear people don't have any common sense. The 2 responsible killed themselves and their families suffered for it along with everyone else.

After the massacre, many survivors and relatives of deceased victims filed lawsuits.[136] Under Colorado state law at the time, the maximum a family could receive in a lawsuit against a government agency was $600,000.[282] Most cases against the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office and school district were dismissed by the federal court on the grounds of government immunity.[283] The case against the sheriff's office regarding the death of Dave Sanders was not dismissed due to the police preventing paramedics from going to his aid for hours after they knew the gunmen were dead. The case was settled out of court in August 2002 for $1,500,000.[284]

In April 2001, the families of more than 30 victims received a $2,538,000 settlement in their case against the families of Harris, Klebold, Manes, and Duran.[285] Under the terms of the settlement, the Harrises and the Klebolds contributed $1,568,000 through their homeowners' policies, with another $32,000 set aside for future claims; the Manes contributed $720,000, with another $80,000 set aside for future claims; and the Durans contributed $250,000, with an additional $50,000 available for future claims.[285] The family of victim Shoels rejected this settlement, but in June 2003 were ordered by a judge to accept a $366,000 settlement in their $250-million lawsuit against the shooters' families.[286][287] In August 2003, the families of victims Fleming, Kechter, Rohrbough, Townsend, and Velasquez received undisclosed settlements in a wrongful death suit against the Harrises and Klebolds.[286]

Parents of some of the victims filed several unsuccessful lawsuits against film companies, over films such as The Basketball Diaries, which includes a dream sequence with a student shooting his classmates in a trench coat.[259] In the Basement Tapes, they debate on whether or not Steven Spielberg or Quentin Tarantino are appropriate choices to direct films about the massacre.[39] Their home videos also show inspiration taken from Pulp Fiction.[288] Both were fans of the film Lost Highway.[289] Apocalypse Now was found in Harris' VCR.[290]

Columbine High School massacre - Wikipedia

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[PGen98]

It wasn't their parent's fault though. These boys were almost adults, 17 years old. They had part time jobs and they bought those guns without their parent's knowledge. Eric Harris stated in his digital journal that he basically knew his parents would try to stop him if they knew what he was planning. Still, the victims sued Eric and Dylan's (The two shooters) parents anyway. I didn't agree with that. Their parents didn't give them those guns and say "hey go shoot up the school and when you're done, go kill yourselves!". I swear people don't have any common sense. The 2 responsible killed themselves and their families suffered for it along with everyone else.

Columbine High School massacre - Wikipedia

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I completely agree, it was nothing to do with the parents, it was awful how demonized they were, absolutely awful. It'd be hard enough living with the knowledge your son did that, but to have to take on massive debt because the families sue you as if you knew? Just terrible! They wanted a scapegoat, they found a few and they pushed those hard.

 

[Nebulous's iconNebulous]

People blamed it all DOOM

That is bullshit!