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How much can we trust our governments?
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The word 'Trust' made me🤣
Think about your question. "how much can we trust...."
You can absolutely trust our government, to do whatever the politicians (curse - spit) and bureau-rats think is in their own best self interest.
Dead Last on that list is what is best for the AVERAGE tax-paying and vote casting citizen.
You can absolutely trust our government, to do whatever the politicians (curse - spit) and bureau-rats think is in their own best self interest.
Dead Last on that list is what is best for the AVERAGE tax-paying and vote casting citizen.
YES!! Best answer ever.
I don't think it is a matter of trusting them so much, at least not in the framing of this discussion. As the government are not secretly conspiring. However it is a capitalist world system and this is reflected in government structures and systems. Legislation is enacted in a way that benefits the capitalist class. There will be moments of contradiction as the capitalist class aren't always unified and there can be rifts among them. But the general rule is that policy is not to the favour of most people, much the same way that our dominant culture isn't.
You should trust government and the reasons they love to give you other peoples earnings about as far as you could win a fight with this rhino. They don’t have your best interests. They don’t care if you live or die. They want your compliance and they will make you a weak dependent useless human being to do it or kill you.
But yet so many people who say they don’t trust government are more than willing to give them more powers over you as long as they get what they think they deserve from government.
Secretly conspiring is what government does on a daily basis and the examples are numerous and legendary.
A system that has given more wealth and freedom to more people than anything other system in history. Nothing else is even remotely comes close. It’s like comparing a Florida hill to Mount Everest.
That’s not capitalism that’s crony capitalism.
Basically the ones who don’t want government manipulating capitalism and letting the market do it’s own thing.
That’s the government’s plan but capitalism has no such rule, it favors the most innovative and hard working.
Thats a cute smiley. Where do you get those from?Silly boy!
Thank you.
Thank you.
Sorry, I missed this post.
I have no idea where that came from.
Through the years I've scavenged some that appealed to me; I guess you might say it's part of my 'private collection'.
Help yourself!
(You caught me talking to that pretend person, didn't you?
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Whether it is crony capitalism or not, is not the point I was trying to make with my post. It was simply that the dominant world system we have had for the past few centuries has been a capitalist one. The state played a key role in creating the conditions necessary for the emergence and maintenance of capitalism. Increasingly over time the values and ideology of capitalism have come to seep into more and more of our social and cultural realities. It now frames the way most of our lives are conducted. The legislation I referred to as being for the benefit of the capitalist class was in the sense that it is made through and with capitalist logic and values. It is this framework that means that a lot of government actions are not to the benefit of the people. But rather further enrich and empower the already wealthy.
Sorry, I missed this post.
I have no idea where that came from.
Through the years I've scavenged some that appealed to me; I guess you might say it's part of my 'private collection'.
Help yourself!
(You caught me talking to that pretend person, didn't you?
…@Randy’s threads do have discussion value, otherwise they wouldn’t be posted.
I’ve never posted with someone who comes prepared with their own smileys, usually people are limited to the ones installed on the forum. You post without limits!
But it hasn’t really been capitalism for many decades.
More like corrupting it then maintenance of it. Maintenance of capitalism would mean they make sure everyone plays within the law not government playing within capitalism.
Yes but because of government corruption some people see capitalism differently in our culture and why so many of our young think socialism/communism is the way to go.
Now and days I think very little of it truly is for intention of capitalism.
Specially not capitalist values.
Well government isn’t for the benefit of people because they have left capitalism and corrupted it.
And why it’s no longer capitalism, true capitalism benefits all classes if you have a idea and drive to achieve it.
I think fundamentally you and I disagree about the nature of capitalism. But we do so in such a way that we are both in the very least suspicious of the state. You because you think they have turned too far away from capitalism and me because I think they are too capitalist. We even both look at the same time period as exemplifying our respective stances. We would probably need dedicated threads or we will run the risk of going too far off topic again.
Of course Randy's threads have discussion value!…@Randy’s threads do have discussion value, otherwise they wouldn’t be posted.
I’ve never posted with someone who comes prepared with their own smileys, usually people are limited to the ones installed on the forum. You post without limits!
Finding out the truth about him, though, was quite surprising; kind of like finding out the truth about Santa Claus.
This whole 'sock puppet account' thing is totally new to me. I'll never look at Randy's questions in the same light again.
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