WWE/NXT Discussion Thread

[Dead2009]

World Heavyweight Champion: CM Punk
Intercontinental Champion: Dominik Mysterio
Women's World Champion: Stephanie Vaquer
Women's Intercontinental Champion: Maxxine Dupri
World Tag Team Champions: AJ Styles & Dragon Lee

Undisputed WWE Champion: Cody Rhodes
United States Champion: Ilja Dragunov
Women's Champion: Jade Cargill
Women's United States Champion: Chelsea Green
WWE Tag Team Champions: The Wyatt Sicks

Women's Tag Team Champions: The Kabuki Warriors

NXT Champion: Oba Femi
NXT North American Champion: Ethan Page
NXT Women's Champion: Jacy Jayne
NXT Women's North American Champion: Blake Monroe
NXT Heritage Cup Champion: Channing "Stacks" Lorenzo
NXT Tag Team Champions: DarkState

Evolve Champion: Jackson Drake
Evolve Women's Champion: Kendal Grey

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[Dead2009]

NXT Heatwave results

Spoiler

WWE NXT North American Title Match
Oba Femi (c) defeats Wes Lee (16:19)

WWE NXT Women's North American Title Match
Kelani Jordan (c) defeats Sol Ruca (11:36)

WWE NXT Tag Team Title Match
Axiom & Nathan Frazer (c) defeat Chase U (Andre Chase & Duke Hudson) (w/Riley Osborne & Thea Hail) (16:49)

WWE NXT Women's Title Match
Roxanne Perez (c) defeats Lola Vice (13:08)

WWE NXT Title Fatal Four Way Match
Ethan Page defeats Trick Williams (c) and Je'Von Evans and Shawn Spears - TITLE CHANGE !!! (17:24)

 

[Webster]

Ethan Page defeats Trick Williams (c) and Je'Von Evans and Shawn Spears - TITLE CHANGE !!! (17:24)

All Ego did it!

Ethan Page wins NXT championship at Heatwave

Trick Williams loses his title in an unbelievable finish to NXT’s latest PLE.

www.cagesideseats.com

ALL HAIL ALL EGO!!!!

 

[Webster]

What did AEW do for him?

Other than his time w/Dan Lambert and American Top Team in 2021-2022, not a damn thing.

 

[Webster]

Someone should tell Baby Khan that when your competitor's C-Show (NXT) beats your A-Show (AEW Dynamite) something is terribly wrong....

 

[Dead2009]

411MANIA | Bobby Lashley’s WWE Contract Reportedly Set to Expire Soon

According to a new report, the WWE contract of former champion Bobby Lashley is reportedly set to expire soon.

411mania.com

 

[Webster]

https://offtopix.com/threads/national-wrestling-alliance-discussion-thread.47617/post-668422

Continuing from my post above, Charlotte Flair is to WWE women's wrestling as Roman Reigns is to the men's side of the locker room: the biggest freaking Creator's Pet in the history of the company....

Per the Tropes, @Dead2009,

Creator's Pet: Probably the most notorious in modern wrestling, rivaled only by her Spear Counterpart, Roman Reigns. Due to her father's influence and fitting Vince McMahon's vision of what a women's champion should be and look like, Charlotte has received and won multiple titles since her debut to the point it's painfully obvious that WWE is trying to make her a 16-time champion like her dad. It's made worse that Charlotte is highly protected by the company to the point that she rarely loses any matches, let alone cleanly (in addition to rarely being the person pin/submitted in non-single matches).

 

[Dead2009]

A better comparison would be John Cena.

 

[Webster]

A better comparison would be John Cena.

There wasn't a female equivalent; the closest would either be Trish Stratus or Lita but neither of them ever reached Creator's Pet status.

Nowadays, yes both Charlotte Flair and Roman Reigns fit the critieria for being a Creator's Pet, the only difference being Roman's actually worked at earning his spot at the top of the men's roster; Charlotte hasn't, plus there've been genuinely better female talents (Bayley, Becky Lynch, Asuka, Ronda Rousey, Rhea Ripley) who've either seen their own pushes stifled and/or buried just so Charlotte can have more of the spotlight (and in Asuka's case, was buried)

Per the Tropes...

The criticism absolutely exploded again when, already being added into the first women's main event at WrestleMania 35, Charlotte added another accomplishment to her already long list by winning the SmackDown Championship a third time and breaking the record for most championships won by a woman, ending Asuka's championship reign in a match which not only wasn't even announced beforehand, but saw the champion herself come out for it during the commercial break.

This had the side effect of not only destroying Asuka's title run, which had already been criticized for being treated as so unimportant it was second fiddle to the Raw Women's Championship storyline on its own show, but also shafting four women from the SmackDown Live roster who were slated to be next in a #1 contender's match for said title, all as a means to make Charlotte shine next to Becky and Ronda. Although, WWE later confirmed that Charlotte would defend her championship in the triple threat match and make it a winner takes all match, which ultimately only ensured that Becky ended up with both belts.

Even after WrestleMania 35 she STILL continued to be in the championship picture, being given a SmackDown Women's Championship match at Money in the Bank 2019 and winning the title at said PPV, with the other women of SmackDown being completely ignored to the point that they were reduced to compete for the Women's Tag Team Championship. It says something that some were more looking forward to Lynch's feud with newcomer Lacey Evans just by virtue of not being yet another Charlotte-Becky match-up (with even Becky herself in-storyline stating that she was completely done with feuding with Charlotte). Even after she was phased out of the title scene, many fans were still irritated by Charlotte's constant presence on TV.

 

[Dead2009]

You said creator project and mentioned Roman as the male version. It wasn't Roman, it was Cena. Cena rarely ever lost and when he did, it wasn't clean. I mean my god they had him lose a cage match because he got distracted by a kid with a demonic voice over singing. If that's not overprotected, I dont know what is.

Roman even when he was the chosen one coming out of the Shield, was losing matches and feuds. Hell they had him lose the WWE title after a Sheamus MITB cash in on the same night. Who can forget him also losing to Shane McMahon. SHANE MCMAHON. The lowest Cena ever got was a bullshit match against Kevin Federline or whatever his name was and even then, THAT loss wasnt clean.

In terms of Trish and Lita....Lita was never given the ball in general. She'd get a push here and there for a month or 2 and then go back to the midcard of the womens division. It didnt help that she was also injured for a good chunk of her run, whether it be her neck or her knee.

 

[Dead2009]

Hes gonna cost someone the match. Probably Punk.

 

[Dead2009]

I like how Rhea Ripley virtually wore her underwear to Raw tonight....good lord.

 

[Webster]

You said creator project and mentioned Roman as the male version. It wasn't Roman, it was Cena. Cena rarely ever lost and when he did, it wasn't clean. I mean my god they had him lose a cage match because he got distracted by a kid with a demonic voice over singing. If that's not overprotected, I dont know what is.

Roman even when he was the chosen one coming out of the Shield, was losing matches and feuds. Hell they had him lose the WWE title after a Sheamus MITB cash in on the same night. Who can forget him also losing to Shane McMahon. SHANE MCMAHON. The lowest Cena ever got was a bullshit match against Kevin Federline or whatever his name was and even then, THAT loss wasnt clean.

In terms of Trish and Lita....Lita was never given the ball in general. She'd get a push here and there for a month or 2 and then go back to the midcard of the womens division. It didnt help that she was also injured for a good chunk of her run, whether it be her neck or her knee.

I stand by what I said.

 

[Dead2009]

WWE Summerslam results

Spoiler

WWE Women's World Title Match
Liv Morgan (c) defeats Rhea Ripley (w/Dominik Mysterio) (15:53)

WWE Intercontinental Title Match
Bron Breakker defeats Sami Zayn (c) (5:42) - TITLE CHANGE !!!

WWE United States Title Match
LA Knight defeats Logan Paul (c) (12:04) - TITLE CHANGE !!!

WWE Women's Title Match
Nia Jax defeats Bayley (c) (12:33) - TITLE CHANGE !!!

Singles Match (Special Referee: Seth Rollins)
Drew McIntyre defeats CM Punk (16:58)

WWE World Heavyweight Title Match
Gunther defeats Damian Priest (c) by referee's decision (16:38) - TITLE CHANGE !!!

WWE Title / WWE Universal Title Bloodline Rules Match
Cody Rhodes (c) defeats Solo Sikoa (29:13)

 

[Webster]

Bron Breakker defeats Sami Zayn (c) (5:42) - TITLE CHANGE !!!

Scott Steiner's now the uncle of a WWE champion; congrats to the Steiner family! (Yeah, I know he already had an NXT title to his credit; this is Bron's first main roster
title)

LA Knight defeats Logan Paul (c) (12:04) - TITLE CHANGE !!!

Gunther defeats Damian Priest (c) by referee's decision (16:38) - TITLE CHANGE !!!

GUNTHER! GUNTHER! GUNTHER!

 

[Phillip]

Nice little return for a heel turn baby face last night!

 

[Webster]

Nia Jax defeats Bayley (c) (12:33) - TITLE CHANGE !!!

Of all the people....per the Tropes,

X-Pac Heat
--Nia had a bit of a reputation for botches and causing injuries to her opponents, but after what happened the week of Survivor Series 2018, where she punched Becky Lynch square in the face, giving Lynch a concussion that forced WWE to call off the Lynch vs. Rousey match that the whole PPV had been built around and find a new SmackDown representative, everyone was practically calling for Nia's head on a stick.
--Jax herself seemed to recognize it with a tweet of "isn't anyone going to ask me how my fist feels?" WWE are trying to parley it into proper Heel heat by doubling down on Nia's "monster" booking in the wake of her smashing Becky's face. For the most part it did not work, with the crowds becoming even more indifferent of her presence (arguably even becoming one of the most disliked competitors on the Raw roster).
--Jax's return from injury in the spring of 2020 garnered very mixed reactions, with many fans still skeptical over her borderline reckless in-ring work. The criticism over her dangerous behavior exploded into discussion once again on the April 20th edition of RAW, when she botched a Buckle Bomb on Kairi Sane (a major Ensemble Dark Horse), very nearly injuring her in the process. The controversy about how dangerous and careless she is became so great that the company decided to ban the Buckle Bomb move altogether (at least from Jax's arsenal as Seth Rollins continues to use it).
--She also didn't do herself any favours by talking about complaining to WWE bosses about Ronda Rousey hurting Alexa Bliss in the ring. Specifically the part where described it as "standing up for her", which many decried as hypocritical in light of Nia's own history of injuring people.

 

[Dead2009]

John Cena Says He's Signed Extension With WWE Past 2025 | 411MANIA | Wrestling News, WWE & AEW Results

John Cena's WWE retirement tour takes place next year, but he says he's signed an extension to stay past his in-ring career.

411mania.com

 

[Dead2009]

WWE Bash in Berlin results

Spoiler

WWE Title / WWE Universal Title Match
Cody Rhodes (c) defeats Kevin Owens (26:10)

WWE Women's Tag Team Title Match
Bianca Belair & Jade Cargill defeat The Unholy Union (Alba Fyre & Isla Dawn) (c) (12:02) - TITLE CHANGE !!!

Strap Match
CM Punk defeats Drew McIntyre (19:15)

Mixed Tag Team Match
The Terror Twins (Damian Priest & Rhea Ripley) defeat The Judgment Day (Dominik Mysterio & Liv Morgan) (14:20)

WWE World Heavyweight Title Match
Gunther (c) defeats Randy Orton (34:28)

 

[Dead2009]

WWE Fires Odyssey Jones

According to Bryan Alvarez on Wrestling Observer Live, Odyssey Jones has been fired by WWE. "There has not been a press release or anything like that. But I've been told Odyssey Jones is fired. There are rumours online, also from Fightful, that it was a domestic violence allegation....

cultaholic.com