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2014 U.S. Mid-Term Elections

Webster

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With about 5 weeks or so before Americans go the polls this November, any thoughts on how the mid-term elections will go? Will it be a state-by-state battle for control or will there be a wave similar to that of 2010?

Thoughts?

*looks over towards the admins* ...is there any way we can get this pinned...please?
 
Most of the flaming assholes in the House, and one third of the Senate, will be re-elected because, while most people throw up a little into their mouths when asked about Congress in general, they usually like whatever Congress Critter represents them. Or, at least they like it more than they like whatever re-animated corpse of a town drunk the other side has dredged up to run against it.

So. A few will get sent home, and some of the pundits will raise a hue and cry about a "sea change" or some such crap....

And NOTHING will change.
 
DrLeftover said:
Most of the flaming assholes in the House, and one third of the Senate, will be re-elected because, while most people throw up a little into their mouths when asked about Congress in general, they usually like whatever Congress Critter represents them. Or, at least they like it more than they like whatever re-animated corpse of a town drunk the other side has dredged up to run against it.

So. A few will get sent home, and some of the pundits will raise a hue and cry about a "sea change" or some such crap....

And NOTHING will change.

On that, I think we can both agree, Doc.
 
DrLeftover said:
Most of the flaming assholes in the House, and one third of the Senate, will be re-elected because, while most people throw up a little into their mouths when asked about Congress in general, they usually like whatever Congress Critter represents them. Or, at least they like it more than they like whatever re-animated corpse of a town drunk the other side has dredged up to run against it.

So. A few will get sent home, and some of the pundits will raise a hue and cry about a "sea change" or some such crap....

And NOTHING will change.

So true. One of the following will only make changes happen. A real collapse of our economy and the dollar. A revolution. A constitutional convention.
 
...whatever Politico's smoking must be good if they think it'll be good for us Democrats' to be in the minority over the next two years...
Excerpt said:
If the latest round of polls is accurate, Democrats will lose nearly every competitive Senate race, giving Republicans full control of Congress for the first time in 10 years.

This is excellent news for Democrats. Instead of another two years of the same old gridlock that has turned voters off of both parties, Democrats will get to kick back with a large tub of buttery popcorn and watch the Republican soap opera hit peak suds.

In the House, the Boehner vs. Tea Party plot line will heat up, as several anti-Boehner party rebels are expected to win seats now held by more genteel Republicans. The Senate may end up more like a classic sitcom: Can two grandstanders like Rand Paul and Ted Cruz run for president at the same time without driving the majority leader crazy?

And if you thought that was enough conflict for one season, you’ll be on the edge of your seat as these two Animal Houses flail about and flagellate each other trying (or not trying) to keep the government open and avoid a debt default.

Sen. Mitch McConnell has already mapped out a confrontational budget strategy with no end game: Jam spending bills, which are necessary for funding the government, with a bunch of right-wing riders unpalatable to President Obama. What if Obama vetoes your bills, POLITICO recently asked him? “Yeah, he could,” shrugged McConnell. He skirts what would happen next: the proverbial hot potato would get tossed back to him and Boehner, and the simmering GOP civil war between the cautious and the revolutionary would be on full boil.

The inconvenient truth for the Republican Party is that it’s not ready for prime time, yet it’s on the verge of fully sharing with the president the responsibility of running the country.

An organized opposition party could use control of Congress to rally the nation behind a package of popular proposals and set the stage for a White House triumph. But Republicans will be going to war with the party they have, not the party they wish to have: All this incarnation of the GOP can win in November is the opportunity to work out its dysfunctional family issues under the white-hot spotlight of a presidential campaign.(Politico)

...on the other hand, there would be a silver lining to seeing Republicans try to run the goat rodeo that their having control of both houses of Congress and that would be watching them try to run the place...bring the popcorn!
 
Grimes Edges Ahead In New Kentucky Poll

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Democratic challenger Alison Lundergan Grimes is running ahead of Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell in a new poll. | ASSOCIATED PRESS
A SurveyUSA Bluegrass Poll, released Monday, gives Democrat Alison Lundergan Grimes the advantage over Republican Mitch McConnell in the Kentucky Senate race for the first time since May. Grimes, the Kentucky secretary of state, leads the Senate minority leader by 46 percent to 44 percent.

The new poll differs from the handful of other nonpartisan surveys released since September that give McConnell a lead ranging from 4 to 8 points, but it lines up with Grimes' internal polling conducted by Mark Mellman, a pollster with a history of correctly calling long-shot races for Democrats in North Dakota and Nevada.

HuffPost Pollster's Senate model continues to show McConnell as the favorite, with a 4-point edge over Grimes and about a 63 percent chance of winning -- moderately better than a tossup.

SurveyUSA shows the change coming mostly among Democrats, who now break 72 percent for Grimes and 21 percent for McConnell. In an August poll, SurveyUSA found 67 percent supporting Grimes and 25 percent backing McConnell.

National Democrats recently surprised some political analysts by ramping up their investment in the Kentucky race, spending $1.4 million on an ad campaign hammering McConnell for his long tenure in Washington.

The SurveyUSA poll reached 632 people between Sept. 29 and Oct. 2, using automated phone calls and an online panel.
 
Smooth said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
A revolution.

This is what will end up happening. I have little doubt that a massive revolution is imminent.

Its coming but it wont happen until a real collapse happens. Which is also coming when the world eventually drops us as the world currency. China is working damn hard to not need us anymore and when that happens it truly will get ugly here.
 
Webster said:
Grimes Edges Ahead In New Kentucky Poll

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Democratic challenger Alison Lundergan Grimes is running ahead of Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell in a new poll. | ASSOCIATED PRESS
A SurveyUSA Bluegrass Poll, released Monday, gives Democrat Alison Lundergan Grimes the advantage over Republican Mitch McConnell in the Kentucky Senate race for the first time since May. Grimes, the Kentucky secretary of state, leads the Senate minority leader by 46 percent to 44 percent.

The new poll differs from the handful of other nonpartisan surveys released since September that give McConnell a lead ranging from 4 to 8 points, but it lines up with Grimes' internal polling conducted by Mark Mellman, a pollster with a history of correctly calling long-shot races for Democrats in North Dakota and Nevada.

HuffPost Pollster's Senate model continues to show McConnell as the favorite, with a 4-point edge over Grimes and about a 63 percent chance of winning -- moderately better than a tossup.

SurveyUSA shows the change coming mostly among Democrats, who now break 72 percent for Grimes and 21 percent for McConnell. In an August poll, SurveyUSA found 67 percent supporting Grimes and 25 percent backing McConnell.

National Democrats recently surprised some political analysts by ramping up their investment in the Kentucky race, spending $1.4 million on an ad campaign hammering McConnell for his long tenure in Washington.

The SurveyUSA poll reached 632 people between Sept. 29 and Oct. 2, using automated phone calls and an online panel.

I have said it before and I will say it again I would rather have true republicans and true conservatives in office then compromise. So if the country has to fall further into a crap hole so be it. Bye, bye Mitch.
 
TRUE LIBERTY said:
I have said it before and I will say it again I would rather have true republicans and true conservatives in office then compromise. So if the country has to fall further into a crap hole so be it. Bye, bye Mitch.

So that means you'd vote for Grimes too?
 
Webster said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
I have said it before and I will say it again I would rather have true republicans and true conservatives in office then compromise. So if the country has to fall further into a crap hole so be it. Bye, bye Mitch.

So that means you'd vote for Grimes too?

No! I would do a write in. And have done write ins. And will probably do more right in this November.
 
....while all the election talk has centered around the usual suspect of states in the 2014 cycle, something interesting's going on in George McGovern's home state of South Dakota...
A new poll of the South Dakota Senate race shows former three-term GOP senator Larry Pressler, now running as an independent, has surged into second place and is within the margin of error against former governor Mike Rounds (R).

The poll, from automated pollster SurveyUSA, shows Rounds at 35 percent, Pressler at 32 percent and Democrat Rick Weiland at 28 percent. A month ago, Rounds led Weiland by 11 points, while Pressler trailed just behind Weiland in third place.

So do we have another Greg Orman situation on our hands?

Well, possibly. But it's too early to say for certain.

Here's what we do know:
1) Other polls have shown Pressler gaining, but not to this extent. A poll from Democratic-leaning automated pollster Public Policy Polling last week still showed Pressler in third place, 11 points behind Rounds. And another poll from Nielsen Brothers showed much the same thing, with Pressler 15 points back.

This is the first poll to show Rounds in such serious trouble, against either Weiland or Pressler.

2) Rounds has never looked he'd win in a absolute blowout, either. Despite national Democrats having largely thrown in the towel from the start, Rounds hasn't looked overly strong. In fact, he hasn't polled above 44 percent his year.

You might think that's because he's facing a former Republican senator who is pulling votes from him. But actually, polls show Pressler is competing for votes more with Weiland. In fact, the new SurveyUSA poll shows a race without Weiland would favor Pressler by 15 points (!), 54-39. (That's pretty Orman-esque.) And PPP has Rounds's favorable/unfavorable split 41/51.

Clearly, the once-popular governor isn't a world-beater. Then again, he doesn't need to be in a three-way race. He only needs a plurality.

3) Speaking of money, Pressler doesn't have much. Whatever momentum the former senator has, he might struggle down the stretch thanks to a lack of funds. He has only raised about $100,000 so far for his entire campaign and has self-funded another $200,000. He had $151,000 in the bank, as of Sept. 30.

Rounds, meanwhile, raised $830,000 over the past three months alone and had $1.1 million in the bank as of Sept. 30. And a group just went up with a $1 million ad campaign to boost Weiland.

4) Rounds hasn't gone negative. While Rounds has endured negative ads, he thus far hasn't gone negative himself. If he does, you'll know that his campaign is getting concerned.

5) It's turning into a very interesting election year for independents. Orman is favored to knock off an incumbent senator in Kansas, independent Bill Walker has a great shot at beating Alaska Gov. Sean Parnell (R) in a very similar setup in which the Democrat dropped out, and now we've got Pressler threatening in South Dakota.

The Senate has never had more than the two independents it currently has. Come January, it's at least plausible that it could have four. And if Orman's potential win (and his refusal to say with whom he'd caucus) has already complicated the GOP's majority math, try inserting two new independent senators to the mix.

But first, let's wait and see if other polls show such a scary situation for Rounds.(Washington Post)
 
...well, isn't it nice to see Calgary Cruz going to the Sunflower State to help Virginia's third senator win re-election...
Excerpt...
WICHITA, Kan. — Pat Roberts has served Kansas in the Senate for nearly 18 years, but freshman Texas Sen. Ted Cruz had all the political clout at a Roberts campaign event Thursday.

The conservative icon and potential presidential candidate's support could be crucial for Roberts, who faces a challenge from independent candidate Greg Orman in a suddenly competitive race that has implications for the Senate majority.

Here to kick off his statewide bus tour, Roberts took the stage with Cruz, Oklahoma Sen. Tom Coburn and Kansas Rep. Tim Huelskamp — three allies on hand to provide support and additional enthusiasm. Roberts got solid applause, but the crowd erupted when Cruz, who had the final speaking slot, was introduced — yelling and cheering, longer and louder than for any other speaker.

"I'm here in Kansas because I know Pat. The two years I've served in the Senate, over and over again on fight after fight for conservative principles, Pat Roberts has shown up and reported for duty," Cruz told the crowd. "A year ago last week, when I was standing on the Senate floor filibustering on Obamacare, Pat Roberts was one of a handful of senators who came down and stood by my side and said, 'Obamacare is a disaster, and we've got to stop it.'"

Cruz also noted that Roberts also worked with him to stand up for the Second Amendment and in opposition to President Barack Obama's immigration policies.

Roberts' startlingly tough re-election bid comes in a state that last elected a non-Republican to the Senate in 1932. Until Wednesday, recent polls had shown Roberts at a significant disadvantage to Orman, a businessman from Olathe, a Kansas City suburb. But the incumbent took small leads in fresh surveys conducted over the past week.

Orman's potency as a candidate is largely a result of Roberts' own struggles, including questions about his residency and a sub-par campaign operation coming out of the primary. The race, once viewed as a sure thing for Republicans, is rated a Tossup by the Rothenberg Political Report/Roll Call. But Roberts is still alive, thanks to a revamp of his team, an influx of surrogates and outside money flowing onto the airwaves on his behalf.

On Thursday, as his colleagues were on hand to assist his campaign, Roberts acknowledged it was the junior senator from Texas that people were there to see.(MSN News/Roll Call)
 
TRUE LIBERTY said:
Webster said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
I have said it before and I will say it again I would rather have true republicans and true conservatives in office then compromise. So if the country has to fall further into a crap hole so be it. Bye, bye Mitch.

So that means you'd vote for Grimes too?

No! I would do a write in. And have done write ins. And will probably do more right in this November.

The country is going to start it's conservative swing. Off years are most often won by the party out of power. Your next president I think will be Ted Cruz.
 
DarkFury said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
Webster said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
I have said it before and I will say it again I would rather have true republicans and true conservatives in office then compromise. So if the country has to fall further into a crap hole so be it. Bye, bye Mitch.

So that means you'd vote for Grimes too?

No! I would do a write in. And have done write ins. And will probably do more right in this November.

The country is going to start it's conservative swing. Off years are most often won by the party out of power. Your next president I think will be Ted Cruz.

*reads DarkFury's comment* :lol::lol::lol: ...I'm sorry, Fury... :lol::lol::lol::lol: ....but that has as much a chance of happening as a Republican would of becoming D.C. Mayor...besides, he's have to make it out of the clown car that is the current Republican primary field and given some of the current cast of crazies whose names have come up there (Rick Santorum, Rand Paul, Mike Huckabee, among others) whoever the Republican Tea Party nominates, it'll be fun watching them crash'n'burn come 2016.
 
DrLeftover said:
Change it to "14"

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Doc, people been saying that for years, yet you and I both know what usually happens...they send the same bums, on either side, back.
 
Webster said:
DrLeftover said:
Change it to "14"

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Doc, people been saying that for years, yet you and I both know what usually happens...they send the same bums, on either side, back.

But there is always hope.

I don't think I have EVER knowingly voted for an incumbent from either party in ANY office.

And, as far as I can remember, I've never voted FOR a winning Presidential OR Gubernatorial candidate.
 
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