And the Government Shuts Down...

[Michael Myers]

Live updates: US government shuts down after last-ditch Senate vote fails

Government funding was cut off at midnight, likely leaving hundreds of thousands of employees on unpaid leave and halting many government services.

www.bbc.com

 

[MrDawn]

What a bunch of assholes.

 

[DrLeftover]

I'm glad you told me. I wouldn't have noticed otherwise.

 

[passenger]

I understand that Congress is still collecting a pay check ; so, maybe they're still covered.

 

[safeinsanity]

The dems would rather shut the government down than stop paying health care to their precious illegals.

 

[Michael Myers]

(The Guardian) 'It's going to get more and more painful,' says Mike Johnson, as he claims Trump and Vought making cuts 'reluctantly'
Speaking to reporters this morning, House speaker Mike Johnson has indicated that lawmakers are no closer to a deal on government funding and, standing at a podium emblazoned with the words, “The Democrat shutdown”, continued to lay blame for the shutdown squarely on the opposition.

He continued to insist that the Republicans had nothing to negotiate over because they’re pushing for a “clean” continuing resolution, which doesn’t include any new GOP provisions and would just maintain government funding at the current levels.

Johnson reiterated his point yesterday that Chuck Schumer had “handed the keys to the kingdom” to the executive. The White House said today that federal layoffs will probably be “in the thousands”. Johnson said: The president takes no pleasure in this … When Congress turns off the funding and the funding runs out, it is up to the commander in chief, the president of the United States, to determine how these resources will be spent … He doesn’t want to do it.

Johnson also claimed the White House’s budget director, Russell Vought, is making cuts to the federal government “reluctantly”. (A reminder that Trump said earlier this morning that he couldn’t believe the Democrats had given him ‘this unprecedented opportunity’ to – with Vought – cut ‘many Democrat agencies’ perhaps permanently). Back to Johnson, who said:

Russ does this reluctantly … He takes no pleasure in this, because he has to sit down and decide, because he’s in charge of that office, which policies, personnel, and which programs are essential and which are not. That’s not a fun task and he’s not enjoying that responsibility.

He added this warning regarding the longer the government stays shut down: It’s going to get more and more painful. Because the resources run out and more and more things have to be reduced and eliminated.

 

[KO896]

My husband got furloughed a few times when he worked for the government. It sucked when you had bills to pay and rich politicians don't take that into consideration because they don't know how to work together.

 

[Dr. Frank N. Furter]

This was interesting

 

[Hanging Chad's iconHanging Chad]

The dems would rather shut the government down than stop paying health care to their precious illegals.

I certainly don't believe we should be paying for healthcare for anyone here illegally, but the Medicaid cuts that came with the Big Beautiful Bill are real. And what happens when all of these people show up at any random ED anyway? Hospitals are required to treat these people.

It sucks. I don't want my tax dollars to go to that, but there's no real solution to it. These people are still going to get care, someway or another.

It'll be interesting to see who blinks first.

 

[Michael Myers]

It'll be interesting to see who blinks first.

Well, the Democrats were offered a clean CR to fund the government for the next 7-8 weeks until the regular appropriations process was completed and they refused. Its' their shutdown.

 

[KO896]

I certainly don't believe we should be paying for healthcare for anyone here illegally, but the Medicaid cuts that came with the Big Beautiful Bill are real. And what happens when all of these people show up at any random ED anyway? Hospitals are required to treat these people.

It sucks. I don't want my tax dollars to go to that, but there's no real solution to it. These people are still going to get care, someway or another.

It'll be interesting to see who blinks first.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/1/text

There's the bill....could you point out what Medicaid cuts you're referring to that are concerning?

 

[Hanging Chad's iconHanging Chad]

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/1/text

There's the bill....could you point out what Medicaid cuts you're referring to that are concerning?

The new work requirements. You have to work 80 hours a week if you are able-bodied, which is essentially a part time 20 hour a week job. I'm not saying that's unreasonable, but all of this ends with the uninsured getting free treatment in any random ED anyway... Unless EDs are permitted to deny care, and we'd say that's inhumane. Somewhere down the line, all of this gets paid for. If not the government on the front side, it'll be costs eaten by all of these medical giants on the backend.

I don't have any idea what the right answer is, nor do I pretend to. As someone who works/pays taxes/pays for insurance, obviously it's irritating to see those abuse the system and enjoy those government benefits that I'm helping pay for. At the same time, I feel like I'll just be paying for it in another way.

 

[KO896]

The new work requirements. You have to work 80 hours a week if you are able-bodied, which is essentially a part time 20 hour a week job. I'm not saying that's unreasonable, but all of this ends with the uninsured getting free treatment in any random ED anyway... Unless EDs are permitted to deny care, and we'd say that's inhumane. Somewhere down the line, all of this gets paid for. If not the government on the front side, it'll be costs eaten by all of these medical giants on the backend.

I don't have any idea what the right answer is, nor do I pretend to. As someone who works/pays taxes/pays for insurance, obviously it's irritating to see those abuse the system and enjoy those government benefits that I'm helping pay for. At the same time, I feel like I'll just be paying for it in another way.

I don't see this as much of a "cut". Just something that's really normal for someone who is able-bodied, to have to work and provide for himself/herself to some capacity. Relying on the government completely is something my uncle did most of his life, and trained his kids to do the same thing. Thankfully the youngest got out of that rut!

 

[Michael Myers]

(The Guardian) Republican and Democratic senators Lindsey Graham and Mark Kelly have dug their heels in over the government shutdown – which is now approaching two weeks, with the former saying that the closure won’t push him to meet Democrats’ demands for a restoration of Obama-era healthcare subsidies.

Graham said on NBC News’s Meet the Press on Sunday that he was in favor of the Senate voting to reopen the government and prepared to “have a rational discussion” with Democrats – but not with the government shut down.

“I’m willing to vote to open the government up tomorrow,” Graham said. “To my Democratic friends: I am not going to vote to extend these subsidies.”

Graham, speaking to Democrats, added: “It’s up to you. If you want to keep it shut down, fine. It’s not going to change how I approach healthcare.”

The senator’s comments came as Vice-President JD Vance warned that permanent cuts to the federal workforce will only get “deeper” as the shutdown continues.

Vance told Fox News’s Maria Bartiromo on Sunday Morning Futures that “the longer it goes on, Maria, the more significant they’re going to be. If you remember, we went nine days before announcing any significant layoffs. “The longer this goes on, the deeper the cuts are going to be,” Vance continued.
-Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/13/government-shutdown-drags-on

 

[DrLeftover]

They're all crooks looking for a way to continue to pad their own pockets, and assorted friends and family, with taxpayer money.

 

[Michael Myers]

(Townhall) 'Schumer Shutdown' Continues As Dems Refuse to Reopen Government for 12th Time
The ‘Schumer Shutdown’ continues as Democrats in the U.S. Senate voted for a 12th time since Oct. 1 to keep the federal government shut down. The Senate voted 54-46 to keep the government shutdown. The Senate needs 60 votes to pass a funding bill. Republicans support the measure, but not all Democratic lawmakers do.

The federal government has been shut down for 22 days, which is the second-longest federal shutdown since 1981. The longest shutdown stretched for 35 days.

If the federal shutdown continues much longer into November, then 42 million people might not get food stamp benefits next month.

When pressed about the consequences of extending the federal shutdown, Democrat Whip Rep. Katherine Clark said: "Shutdowns are terrible. Of course, there will be families that are going to suffer. We take that responsibility seriously, but it is one of the few leverage times we have."

The White House social media page has slammed Democratic lawmakers for dragging out the federal shutdown.

 

[Hanging Chad's iconHanging Chad]

I don't see this as much of a "cut". Just something that's really normal for someone who is able-bodied, to have to work and provide for himself/herself to some capacity. Relying on the government completely is something my uncle did most of his life, and trained his kids to do the same thing. Thankfully the youngest got out of that rut!

As I've discussed with you before, I've got family members in my life that are like that. They take advantage of the system every way they can. They go to the emergency room over a sore throat. Some use their Medicaid where they don't pay a dime for anything ever, and some just go wherever without insurance and let whatever bill get sent to collections. I still get letters in the mail from collections from when one of them was living with us for a little while.