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Well if you think about it, right, you've beat up some neighbour with a spade wearing masks and what not. Then in the short time span it takes someone to call the police and for the police to arrive you have to hide the evidence. Then there's the witness testimony's. Everyone's but yours is going to fit together, since at some point you had to go and get the mask and shovel. When the police find out that you have a alibi that doesn't match all the other's they're going to question you. Then they could get a warrant to search your house. There's going to be shoe marks near the body, there's going to be blood spatter transferred between the body and your clothes which, when you take the clothes off, will transfer to a part of your house. Then there maybe fibres that were already on your clothes, drop of, and land on the victim. Then when you go to burn the clothes, you have to buy fuel. And by that point the Police sorta know it's you. And fire doesn't consume all of the things you want to burn. They can still run various analytical techniques to determine the composition of what is left and then make a list of what might have these things in, which narrow's down the research. And then there the accelerant (cant spell it >_<) that you use to start the fire, which the gas/petrol station will have records of transaction and CCTV. Then it's just a matter of linking all the evidence back to you and any transfer evidence, and then linking that evidence to the victim.



Oh and you can't completely burn a spade. So they'll be able to match blood/tool marks to the victim, and possibly you.
 
The Dragon Master said:
Well if you think about it, right, you've beat up some neighbour with a spade wearing masks and what not. Then in the short time span it takes someone to call the police and for the police to arrive you have to hide the evidence. Then there's the witness testimony's. Everyone's but yours is going to fit together, since at some point you had to go and get the mask and shovel. When the police find out that you have a alibi that doesn't match all the other's they're going to question you. Then they could get a warrant to search your house. There's going to be shoe marks near the body, there's going to be blood spatter transferred between the body and your clothes which, when you take the clothes off, will transfer to a part of your house. Then there maybe fibres that were already on your clothes, drop of, and land on the victim. Then when you go to burn the clothes, you have to buy fuel. And by that point the Police sorta know it's you. And fire doesn't consume all of the things you want to burn. They can still run various analytical techniques to determine the composition of what is left and then make a list of what might have these things in, which narrow's down the research. And then there the accelerant (cant spell it >_<) that you use to start the fire, which the gas/petrol station will have records of transaction and CCTV. Then it's just a matter of linking all the evidence back to you and any transfer evidence, and then linking that evidence to the victim.



Oh and you can't completely burn a spade. So they'll be able to match blood/tool marks to the victim, and possibly you.





... Well crap... But that's why you bring an extra pair of shoes with you! And maybe even paint over the spade! And you make sure no one is seeing what is happening!
 
Yes but then there's more paperwork, depending whether you use the new shoes for the assault. The paint for your spade isn't a good idea, since it won't be properly made to paint a spade and will flake off. And this scenario was brought about by a street party, so it's going to be hard not to be seen
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The Dragon Master said:
Yes but then there's more paperwork, depending whether you use the new shoes for the assault. The paint for your spade isn't a good idea, since it won't be properly made to paint a spade and will flake off. And this scenario was brought about by a street party, so it's going to be hard not to be seen
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And thus that paperwork will work in my favor somehow as it will take them longer to process everything. So.. HAH! And that's why you get that person alone somehow. I mean if half the people are potentially drunk. Its practically easy then. o.0



Jazzy said:
You'd make a very good teacher, Dragon!

Lol, that she would!
 
Well not really, since they would have people dedicated into looking into your bank records
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And it only takes one or two people who say they didn't/did see you to give the Police extra reason into looking into you
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And it would look suspicious for you to try and get that one person alone, and then they turn up dead, don't cha think?



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And thank you XD
 
Sci, I'd give up arguing with Dragon if I were you, you're not going to win.
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The Dragon Master said:
Well not really, since they would have people dedicated into looking into your bank records
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And it only takes one or two people who say they didn't/did see you to give the Police extra reason into looking into you
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And it would look suspicious for you to try and get that one person alone, and then they turn up dead, don't cha think?



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And thank you XD

Well... who's to say you'd be using anything from a bank? What if you used actual cash instead of a bank card or something? And maybe, but at parties. The thing known as the Boom Boom Room happens and they may think that's what is going on. So in one way, they couldn't automatically point at you for causing the problem to happen. And most welcome!
 
@Sci: I hope you're not planning on offing that homeless guy you shower with and trying to get away with it!
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Again, stores will have records and there might be CCTV, and there is a possibility that you forget about receipts, since if they have reason to look into you, they can track/re-create your movements over the past few days/weeks. And they maybe can't automatically point to you, for causing the problem, but it gives them reason to look into you and what you've been buying. No matter how you cut it, there will always be something that will link back to you, making you look more suspicious to them.



And I just lol'ed at Jazzy's post
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Jazzy said:
@Sci: I hope you're not planning on offing that homeless guy you shower with and trying to get away with it!
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What Homeless guy!? I don't shower with any homeless guy!

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Again, stores will have records and there might be CCTV, and there is a possibility that you forget about receipts, since if they have reason to look into you, they can track/re-create your movements over the past few days/weeks. And they maybe can't automatically point to you, for causing the problem, but it gives them reason to look into you and what you've been buying. No matter how you cut it, there will always be something that will link back to you, making you look more suspicious to them.



And I just lol'ed at Jazzy's post
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What the heck is a CCTV though!? And I would make sure to not forget any receipts! But say you bought the stuff months ago. Maybe even years ago. What then? And lol.. Boogie. I will find a way to win!
 
CCTV = Close Circuit TV. Security cameras
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And if you bought the stuff months ago, the suggests premeditation, which carries a longer sentence
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Give up Sci. You've not got a strong enough case to win this arguement!
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You're arguing with someone who is studying about this sort of thing and how to catch people that do this!
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Dragon, I'm on your side.
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You talk so much sense! Its fun to watch Sci tying to win!
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The Dragon Master said:
CCTV = Close Circuit TV. Security cameras
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And if you bought the stuff months ago, the suggests premeditation, which carries a longer sentence
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Oh, much thanks! And what if you bought it not for that intention. But got it cause you needed it for something else at the time? Besides, if you already have the shovel from say years back. How's that suggesting premeditation?





Boogie said:
Give up Sci. You've not got a strong enough case to win this arguement!
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You're arguing with someone who is studying about this sort of thing and how to catch people that do this!
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Dragon, I'm on your side.
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You talk so much sense! Its fun to watch Sci tying to win!
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Bah! I am going to win this somehow! I shan't give up! Or my name isn't Thor!
 
The Dragon Master said:
@Boogie:
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I shall wear him down XD



And thanks
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You're welcome!!
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@Sci: But you said something about buying paint for a shovel, which means that you intended to use the shovel in the crime, and paint over it. And plus, the fact that most people keep their shovel in the back garden/shed. Meaning that you had to have thought about what would make a good weapon. Other than, lets say, a baseball bat/knife.



Also, most people don't have masks in their house
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And your name isn't Thor. It's Sci
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The Dragon Master said:
@Sci: But you said something about buying paint for a shovel, which means that you intended to use the shovel in the crime, and paint over it. And plus, the fact that most people keep their shovel in the back garden/shed. Meaning that you had to have thought about what would make a good weapon. Other than, lets say, a baseball bat/knife.



And your name isn't Thor. It's Sci
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But if what instead of buying the paint. You already have it? And what if you have more then one shovel? And holy crap! Its not Thor!?
 
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