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Darren Wilson Speaks Publicly

Caught it this morning.....And....For the first time ever.....Grand Jury hearing is open....In other words, anyone one who wants to know all the evidence, will be allowed to see it.....Forensic Evidence speaks loud and clear.....The officer and a few witnesses were telling the truth.....
 
Ellie1142545 said:
....For the first time ever.....Grand Jury hearing is open....In other words, anyone one who wants to know all the evidence, will be allowed to see it.....Forensic Evidence speaks loud and clear.....The officer and a few witnesses were telling the truth.....

And.

It won't matter at all to those who think that looting a Walgreens and burning down a pizza place is a "call for justice".
 
I don't know if he's telling the truth, after all Robert McCulloch, the prosecuting attorney in this case, has a long history of siding with the police regardless of who the defense is. He's admitted to--essentially--working the system in some other cases, and while it is the prosecutors job to side with the police department, many sources are calling his relationship with the Ferguson police department an exception. Go out and Google about his history with the department, how his father was killed in the line of duty and how he swore he'd become a police officer only to be stricken with an ailment and the subsequent loss of his leg. It's why he decided to become a prosecutor, which was the "next best thing". This whole system is rigged, fixed, whatever you want to call it and yet they cover it up so well because this is a shining example of corruption. However, if you look at Darren Wilson, really watch his facial expressions and listen to his responses, you can tell he's not remorseful for what has happened. He doesn't care that this family has lost a beloved son. He doesn't care that he took another man's life. Killing someone can be a very emotional thing. Even the hardest of soldiers come back from war after killing "the enemy" with PTSD, and this guy looks like a fucking robot. Something seems off to me.
 
I never said that they had a right to burn down the community.  They don't, period.  It was very wrong of them to go out and trash everything and ruin other people's lives.  What I'm focusing on is the other side of the story, about how fixed the outcome was and why everyone was expecting the verdict they were expecting.  This is much deeper than Michael Brown.  This isn't about his particular case.  Sure, he probably got put down because he attacked an officer.  I can totally understand that, but that doesn't excuse the fact that there is evidence of prejudice and racism in that city. It's no wonder there are rather hostile people coming out and expressing their anger, which I still do not condone. I'm looking for explanations, not excuses. But you can find many numbers to suggest that is the case. All you need to do is locate them.  Here's one!  http://www.npr.org/2014/08/25/343143937/in-ferguson-court-fines-and-fees-fuel-anger And another! http://www.newsweek.com/ferguson-profiling-police-courts-shooting-264744
 
DrLeftover said:
If the local system, or even the system at large is flawed, then that needs to be addressed.

However, I don't think torching an Autozone is the way to do it.

Apparently, down there, they do.

I just told you I agree with you that it's not the right way to do it. And it IS an issue as you can see just by reading many articles and hearing residential testimony. It does need to be addressed; however, that's not happening because of how deeply seeded the corruption and racism still is in that community. It may be 2014, but that doesn't mean shit when it comes to racism and it's ever-existing hold on many people in this country today.
 
I agree that it isn't right. And, peaceful protests ARE possible, such as with the "Occupy Wall Street" movement from a couple of years ago.

You have to do some long searching to even find where somebody there was arrested for disorderly conduct, let alone arson and looting.

To be fair, some were taken in for things like "failure to disperse" and "trespassing", but not for destroying police cars.
 
This is happening because no matter how much evidence is presented, the black community refuses to believe it. Let me ask you when was the last time a black officer shot a white kid and the white community acted like these people are?
 
They riot over shit like this:

1. Their sports team wins.
2. Their sports team loses.
3. Their sports coach leaves to coach another team.
4. They were asked not to party.
5. Black Friday.
6. Pumpkins.
7. Straw hats.
8. No more beer.
9. No more Cabbage Patch Dolls.
10. Woodstock ‘99.
11. Spring break wasn’t fun enough.
12. They don’t like disco anymore.
13. St. Patrick’s Day.
14. A guy is fired for covering up child molestation.
15. Surfing.
16. Desegregation.
17. The prospering of another race.

Let's keep blaming PoC for rioting over things you don't agree with and bolster the idea that it's black people who do stupid shit for stupid reasons.  Really, it should be about people in general being morons, but for some reason people still like to make it about race since a scapegoat is easy to point the finger at.

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"I am distraught that the Grand Jury system in our county may be biased, therefore:"

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2850383/A-town-ravaged-anger-pictures-extent-damage-buildings-Ferguson.html
 
Dee said:
I don't know if he's telling the truth, after all Robert McCulloch, the prosecuting attorney in this case, has a long history of siding with the police regardless of who the defense is.  He's admitted to--essentially--working the system in some other cases, and while it is the prosecutors job to side with the police department, many sources are calling his relationship with the Ferguson police department an exception.  Go out and Google about his history with the department, how his father was killed in the line of duty and how he swore he'd become a police officer only to be stricken with an ailment and the subsequent loss of his leg.  It's why he decided to become a prosecutor, which was the "next best thing".  This whole system is rigged, fixed, whatever you want to call it and yet they cover it up so well because this is a shining example of corruption.  However, if you look at Darren Wilson, really watch his facial expressions and listen to his responses, you can tell he's not remorseful for what has happened.  He doesn't care that this family has lost a beloved son.  He doesn't care that he took another man's life.  Killing someone can be a very emotional thing.  Even the hardest of soldiers come back from war after killing "the enemy" with PTSD, and this guy looks like a fucking robot.  Something seems off to me.

The prosecuting attorney does not have anything to do with the outcome of that decision. It had 3 blacks and 9 whites on the grand jury. Them and only them make the final decision if it should go to court for prosecuting. And the standards for it to move forward are much easier with a grand jury. Plus there was over 70 hours of testimony of witlessnesses to read from that came

And as for remorseful I think you were seeing something different then me. I think he looked very remorseful. I just do not think he looked remorseful he had to defend himself. At least more so then I would ever be for shooting a guy who went nuts on me. If anything I would be angry such a guy forced me to use deadly force.
 
TRUE LIBERTY said:
Dee said:
I don't know if he's telling the truth, after all Robert McCulloch, the prosecuting attorney in this case, has a long history of siding with the police regardless of who the defense is.  He's admitted to--essentially--working the system in some other cases, and while it is the prosecutors job to side with the police department, many sources are calling his relationship with the Ferguson police department an exception.  Go out and Google about his history with the department, how his father was killed in the line of duty and how he swore he'd become a police officer only to be stricken with an ailment and the subsequent loss of his leg.  It's why he decided to become a prosecutor, which was the "next best thing".  This whole system is rigged, fixed, whatever you want to call it and yet they cover it up so well because this is a shining example of corruption.  However, if you look at Darren Wilson, really watch his facial expressions and listen to his responses, you can tell he's not remorseful for what has happened.  He doesn't care that this family has lost a beloved son.  He doesn't care that he took another man's life.  Killing someone can be a very emotional thing.  Even the hardest of soldiers come back from war after killing "the enemy" with PTSD, and this guy looks like a fucking robot.  Something seems off to me.

The prosecuting attorney does not have anything to do with the outcome of that decision. It had 3 blacks and 9 whites on the grand jury. Them and only them make the final decision if it should go to court for prosecuting. And the standards for it to move forward are much easier with a grand jury. Plus there was over 70 hours of testimony of witlessnesses to read from that came

And as for remorseful I think you were seeing something different then me. I think he looked very remorseful. I just do not think he looked remorseful he had to defend himself. At least more so then I would ever be for shooting a guy who went nuts on me. If anything I would be angry such a guy forced me to use deadly force.

You don't think he had any influence in it, but his call for unloading all the evidence and letting a grand jury "work it out" with time for regular folk to wait anxiously for the answer they knew was coming worked out in his and Wilson's favor. This isn't the first time he's rigged the system or influenced it in a way to work out in the supposed "good guy's" favor, and it sure as hell won't be his last.
 
Dee said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
Dee said:
I don't know if he's telling the truth, after all Robert McCulloch, the prosecuting attorney in this case, has a long history of siding with the police regardless of who the defense is.  He's admitted to--essentially--working the system in some other cases, and while it is the prosecutors job to side with the police department, many sources are calling his relationship with the Ferguson police department an exception.  Go out and Google about his history with the department, how his father was killed in the line of duty and how he swore he'd become a police officer only to be stricken with an ailment and the subsequent loss of his leg.  It's why he decided to become a prosecutor, which was the "next best thing".  This whole system is rigged, fixed, whatever you want to call it and yet they cover it up so well because this is a shining example of corruption.  However, if you look at Darren Wilson, really watch his facial expressions and listen to his responses, you can tell he's not remorseful for what has happened.  He doesn't care that this family has lost a beloved son.  He doesn't care that he took another man's life.  Killing someone can be a very emotional thing.  Even the hardest of soldiers come back from war after killing "the enemy" with PTSD, and this guy looks like a fucking robot.  Something seems off to me.

The prosecuting attorney does not have anything to do with the outcome of that decision. It had 3 blacks and 9 whites on the grand jury. Them and only them make the final decision if it should go to court for prosecuting. And the standards for it to move forward are much easier with a grand jury. Plus there was over 70 hours of testimony of witlessnesses to read from that came

And as for remorseful I think you were seeing something different then me. I think he looked very remorseful. I just do not think he looked remorseful he had to defend himself. At least more so then I would ever be for shooting a guy who went nuts on me. If anything I would be angry such a guy forced me to use deadly force.

You don't think he had any influence in it, but his call for unloading all the evidence and letting a grand jury "work it out" with time for regular folk to wait anxiously for the answer they knew was coming worked out in his and Wilson's favor. This isn't the first time he's rigged the system or influenced it in a way to work out in the supposed "good guy's" favor, and it sure as hell won't be his last.

No I do not. He gave the grand jury MONTHS to go through the evidence when grand jury's usually take days to weeks to come up with a decision. I am not sure what people mean by unloading all the evidence on them? If he had picked what he thought was relevant to the case and not gave everything then people would be yelling cover up. I have been on a jury that put a guy away for 20 years and people take this kind of thing very seriously when peoples lives are in your hands. And that is why this took months to get the decision right.
 
DrLeftover said:
Ellie1142545 said:
....For the first time ever.....Grand Jury hearing is open....In other words, anyone one who wants to know all the evidence, will be allowed to see it.....Forensic Evidence speaks loud and clear.....The officer and a few witnesses were telling the truth.....

And.

It won't matter at all to those who think that looting a Walgreens and burning down a pizza place is a "call for justice".
You're right....It won't matter at all.
 
TRUE LIBERTY said:
Dee said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
Dee said:
I don't know if he's telling the truth, after all Robert McCulloch, the prosecuting attorney in this case, has a long history of siding with the police regardless of who the defense is.  He's admitted to--essentially--working the system in some other cases, and while it is the prosecutors job to side with the police department, many sources are calling his relationship with the Ferguson police department an exception.  Go out and Google about his history with the department, how his father was killed in the line of duty and how he swore he'd become a police officer only to be stricken with an ailment and the subsequent loss of his leg.  It's why he decided to become a prosecutor, which was the "next best thing".  This whole system is rigged, fixed, whatever you want to call it and yet they cover it up so well because this is a shining example of corruption.  However, if you look at Darren Wilson, really watch his facial expressions and listen to his responses, you can tell he's not remorseful for what has happened.  He doesn't care that this family has lost a beloved son.  He doesn't care that he took another man's life.  Killing someone can be a very emotional thing.  Even the hardest of soldiers come back from war after killing "the enemy" with PTSD, and this guy looks like a fucking robot.  Something seems off to me.

The prosecuting attorney does not have anything to do with the outcome of that decision. It had 3 blacks and 9 whites on the grand jury. Them and only them make the final decision if it should go to court for prosecuting. And the standards for it to move forward are much easier with a grand jury. Plus there was over 70 hours of testimony of witlessnesses to read from that came

And as for remorseful I think you were seeing something different then me. I think he looked very remorseful. I just do not think he looked remorseful he had to defend himself. At least more so then I would ever be for shooting a guy who went nuts on me. If anything I would be angry such a guy forced me to use deadly force.

You don't think he had any influence in it, but his call for unloading all the evidence and letting a grand jury "work it out" with time for regular folk to wait anxiously for the answer they knew was coming worked out in his and Wilson's favor. This isn't the first time he's rigged the system or influenced it in a way to work out in the supposed "good guy's" favor, and it sure as hell won't be his last.

The Prosecutor is not involved in the decision......The Grand Jury, is the one who made the decision, after seeing, and hearing all of the evidence......

No I do not. He gave the grand jury MONTHS to go through the evidence when grand jury's usually take days to weeks to come up with a decision. I am not sure what people mean by unloading all the evidence on them? If he had picked what he thought was relevant to the case and not gave everything then people would be yelling cover up. I have been on a jury that put a guy away for 20 years and people take this kind of thing very seriously when peoples lives are in your hands. And that is why this took months to get the decision right.
 
Regardless of what we think about the events of that August day in Ferguson, we need to remember one thing: Darren Wilson will have to live with the actions of that day for the rest of his life. No cop ever wants to have to draw their weapon in anger, but if he hadn't on that day, we could be talking about him posthumously here.

That said, has anyone stopped to think that the Grand Jury in this case did their job? They spent several months pouring over dozens of witness statements, questioned dozens of people, poured through voluminous amounts of forensic evidence...and, even with the lower standard a grand jury must meet - a 'preponderance of the evidence' - the evidence simply didn't meet that standard...and if it didn't meet that standard, what d'y'all think would've happened in a trial? A conviction?

Put simply, Darren Wilson did what he believed to be the right thing at the time and those events are going to weigh on him every day for the rest of his life.
 
Webster said:
Regardless of what we think about the events of that August day in Ferguson, we need to remember one thing: Darren Wilson will have to live with the actions of that day for the rest of his life. No cop ever wants to have to draw their weapon in anger, but if he hadn't on that day, we could be talking about him posthumously here.

That said, has anyone stopped to think that the Grand Jury in this case did their job? They spent several months pouring over dozens of witness statements, questioned dozens of people, poured through voluminous amounts of forensic evidence...and, even with the lower standard a grand jury must meet - a 'preponderance of the evidence' - the evidence simply didn't meet that standard...and if it didn't meet that standard, what d'y'all think would've happened in a trial? A conviction?

Put simply, Darren Wilson did what he believed to be the right thing at the time and those events are going to weigh on him every day for the rest of his life.

You are right.....Officer Wilson, will be living with this for the rest of his life....

The Grand Jury, voted after receiving all the evidence, including Forensic.....Forensic evidence speaks loud and clear.....All 12 Juror's (including those that were black) made the decision, not to charge Officer Wilson...
 
Webster said:
Put simply, Darren Wilson did what he believed to be the right thing at the time and those events are going to weigh on him every day for the rest of his life.
Which could be an extremely short life, based on the apparent death threats.
 
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