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Does the guy have a say....

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Does the guy have a say in the woman he impregnated getting an abortion or not?
 
Absolutely!

I dated a girl who had an abortion and told me months later after the fact.. I was one unhappy camper.
 
Mainly yes, with the exception of rape, or the couple breaking up in time for abortion to be a possibility.
 
What do you mean by have a say?



Because you could mean one of two things (as far as I can understand it):



1. That if a man doesn't want a woman he impregnated to have an abortion, she shouldn't be allowed to.



Or . . . .



2. That a man has a right to express himself (and try to change her opinion) and know about a woman's pregnancy and that she wants to have an abortion if he impregnated her. But ultimately she has the final say.



Because it can't exactly be a 50/50 decision if one person wants to have an abortion and the other person doesn't. Only one of them can have the final say, so what do you mean by,having a say? Do you mean his opinion trumping hers? Or do you mean him just knowing about it and getting to express himself while she's the one that trumps his opinion still?
 
Well if I lay down and have unprotected sex with my significant other, and she gets pregnant - and I'm not ready for a child, or can't support it - of course I'd like a say.



In short, the decision should be mutual.
 
Smooth said:
His voice should be heard by the mother to be, but ultimately it is HER decision.



Her decision to kill his future son or daughter?

She could have the baby and sign over her rights if she doesnt want anything to do with it.
 
Smooth said:
Or, the decision to kill her own son or daughter.

Ultimately it should be her decision, as I said.

Yes it is her own son or daughter.. But is also HIS son or daughter that she is robbing him of. It takes two to make a baby and two decide its fate.
 
when you say have a say some people think of it differently. some boys think that have a say means when I tell you to do this, you do it. the father of the child can voice his opinion, but that's all he's allowed to do. even her parents can't do anymore than that.
 
xneseyx said:
when you say have a say some people think of it differently. some boys think that have a say means when I tell you to do this, you do it. the father of the child can voice his opinion, but that's all he's allowed to do. even her parents can't do anymore than that.



But say he gets her pregnant, he doesn't want the child, and the woman does? Or vice versa? Whose opinion should be heard?
 
if he doesn't want the child, then he doesn't have to be a part of that child's life. the man can easily run away if he doesn't want to be a part of it. we can't.
 
xneseyx said:
if he doesn't want the child, then he doesn't have to be a part of that child's life. the man can easily run away if he doesn't want to be a part of it. we can't.



A sad, but often realistic way of thinking. If a man isn't ready to be a dad, he should have used protection. It's not expensive.
 
exactly! see, it's all your fault!
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but, their are some condoms that a woman can use. don't ask me how they work, my mom told me about them!
 
xneseyx said:
exactly! see, it's all your fault!
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but, their are some condoms that a woman can use. don't ask me how they work, my mom told me about them!



There is also birth control. Very effective when used right, and poses a high effective rate.
 
it's not like there's even just one kind of birth control, either. there's pills, diaphragm, douche (I think I spelt that right) bag, the needle thingie...
 
Yes, but I dont think he will have the final answer, because she will have it if she damn well wants it.
 
i think that the father has a say in it, it wouldn't be right if the mother gets rid of the child without the dad saying if it's okay or not.

Fortunatley for me i never have to worry about that.( becuase i a mas gay as a picnic basket lol)
 
xneseyx said:
if he doesn't want the child, then he doesn't have to be a part of that child's life. the man can easily run away if he doesn't want to be a part of it. we can't.



I hate to break it to you but it's very easy for the mother to ditch the child. Your gender doesn't make you more or less likely to do it I am afraid.



I look at it as this. If he doesn't want it and wishes the woman to have an abortion then she has two choices.



1. Comply with his request



2. Don't comply with it and be the sole parent and provider since he didn't want the child in the first place.



It's not the most ideal solution but it seems to be the only one that will actually work for both parties IMO.



There is no way to completely prevent pregnancy from occurring outside of not having sex at all so it's very much so possible to take all the precautions and still get pregnant so no one should be damned to having the responsibility of raising a child if they didn't want it and took all steps to preventing it from happening.
 
I guess, but it's a lot easier for a man to run away than the woman. I know I wouldn't be able to abandon a child.
 
In my opinion, yes he does have a say. He helped the girl get pregnant and he will also be responsible for that child for the rest of the childs life (or at least until they are 18). For that reason I believe the man has a say about abortion or keeping the baby too.

I've always told my boyfriend that if ever I got pregnant his say is just as valid as mine because he will also have the responsibility to raise the child if we decide to keep the child.

Though I've never been pregnant and never had to ask the guy what their say is, I know if ever I got pregnant I would also give my boyfriends opinion the same weight as my own.
 
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