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Florida as its own independent country.

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A few reasons why we need to go our own way.


We have already demonstrated from the example of 2003 that we can live happily without federal tax dollars. In 2006, Florida had a Gross Domestic Product (GDP) of 713.5 billion dollars. Compared to the approximately 192 nations of the earth this would place Florida very favorably at around #19 on the list. This would place Florida above such Western nations as the Netherlands, Belgium, Sweden, Switzerland and even the insanely rich nation of Saudi Arabia. Florida’s economic strength would make for a viable independent nation.

In land mass Florida is approximately 53,927 sq. miles. This makes Florida larger than the sovereign Western nations of Austria, Ireland, Denmark, the Netherlands, Switzerland or Belgium to name a few. Size is obviously not a limiting factor to Florida’s independence.

Our population of approximately 18.1 million is larger than that of many sovereign Western nations to include the Netherlands, Belgium, Sweden, Austria, Switzerland and Norway. Compare Iceland’s population of only 312, 851 and you can see that sovereignty and safety don’t depend on a large population.

As for national security, Florida military historian, Robert Hawk points out that Florida has one of the largest Guard organizations in the US and has all the necessary units to perform as an independent army. The Florida army Guard contains infantry, artillery, cavalry, air defense, engineer, communications, military intelligence and Special Forces as well as troop-carrying and reconnaissance helicopter units. The Florida Air Guard contains air-to-air combat aircraft as well as medium lift transport, which can operate out of any of the state’s 27 military airfields.

If Florida felt the need to increase the size of her military her large population pool would give her a military of dramatic proportions. If Florida were to follow the model of the US military with an active duty force of only 4.76 troops per 1000 citizens, Florida would boast an active armed force of over 86,000 personnel, larger than such Western nations as Australia, Canada, Belgium and Finland. If Florida were to follow the Swiss model with an active duty force of 47.90 troops per 1000 citizens she would have the 6th largest army in the world with only Communist China, the US, India, North Korea and Russia having a larger active duty force.

When it comes to industry, most people only think of Florida in terms of tourism and citrus fruits. Florida however has a strong, skilled and competent manufacturing workforce. Florida supports overt 16,000 manufacturing establishments producing computer and electronic products, transportation equipment, fabricated metal products, food, machinery, nonmetallic mineral products, chemicals, furniture and related products and plastic and rubber products just to name a few.

Florida is rich in natural and agricultural resources, which would aid her in self-sustainability. Florida produces 25% of the world’s phosphate. Ninety Percent of phosphate use is geared towards the manufacture of fertilizer for the production of food and fiber products. Phosphate is also important in livestock feed supplements as well as vitamins, soft drinks, toothpaste, film, light bulbs, bone china, flame-resistant fabrics and optical glass. Florida also leads the continent in the production of masonry cement, peat output, sand, crushed stone and clays.

With Florida’s year-round growing seasons and over 42,500 working farms, she is able to produce over 280 crops, which account for an 87.6 billion dollar impact on the economy. Florida conducts agricultural trade with over 100 countries worldwide which generates around 1.3 billion dollars in cash receipts annually. Florida raises over 952,000 head of beef calves a year. Our livestock industry including beef, poultry, eggs and milk accounted for record gross receipts of over 1.5 billion dollars in 2004. Florida could not only easily feed herself as an independent nation; she is helping feed the world.

Florida’s aerospace and aviation industry is defined by the 1,800 related companies employing over 83,000 workers. Florida hosts nearly 1/3rd of worldwide commercial space activity. Florida’s defense industry is one of the largest in the US with its firms building everything from satellites and next generation air defense systems to body armor and armored vehicles.

As you can see, Florida possesses the critical resources that are necessary to prosper as an independent republic. Reinstating our separation from that leviathan federal government unquestionably opens the door to greater liberty and prosperity for the people of Florida.

The only question remaining is – what are we waiting for?


http://freefloridafirst.org/florida_nation.htm
 
yeah, what is florida without the federal government and military backing and protecting it?

just like the dilemma for texas...

plus, if florida succeeds, all major business will leave florida like how they would with texas...
 
Uh-huh, while it sounds good on paper and theory. Practical application of it would likely be not of the good.
 
Yes, please. Take Florida and all the nutjobs that live there. Matter-of-fact, let all the states that want to break away from the US become whacka-doo countries that think they could last on their own.
 
Dee said:
Yes, please.  Take Florida and all the nutjobs that live there.  Matter-of-fact, let all the states that want to break away from the US become whacka-doo countries that think they could last on their own.

most of those nutjobs and whacka-doos (lmao) all come from out of state, or at least most of them, and making us real floridians look bad... :halo:
 
+Justice said:
Dee said:
Yes, please.  Take Florida and all the nutjobs that live there.  Matter-of-fact, let all the states that want to break away from the US become whacka-doo countries that think they could last on their own.


most of those nutjobs and whacka-doos (lmao) all come from out of state, or at least most of them, and making us real floridians look bad...  :halo:

If you knew what was good for you, you'd leave the state (if you already haven't). xD
 
Dee said:
+Justice said:
Dee said:
Yes, please.  Take Florida and all the nutjobs that live there.  Matter-of-fact, let all the states that want to break away from the US become whacka-doo countries that think they could last on their own.


most of those nutjobs and whacka-doos (lmao) all come from out of state, or at least most of them, and making us real floridians look bad...  :halo:

If you knew what was good for you, you'd leave the state (if you already haven't). xD


fla is pretty much a police state too, so many cops here...

and again, a lot of those cops come here from out of state...
 
The second it happens a butt-load of embargoes will go down. It'll make Cuba's embargoes look like when your mom says no dessert until after you eat your veggies.
 
+Justice said:
yeah, what is florida without the federal government and military backing and protecting it?

just like the dilemma for texas...

plus, if florida succeeds, all major business will leave florida like how they would with texas...

No, all major businesses will stay and others will flood here. We would be a country with no income taxes. It would make us the number one destination for corporations.
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+Justice said:
Dee said:
+Justice said:
Dee said:
Yes, please.  Take Florida and all the nutjobs that live there.  Matter-of-fact, let all the states that want to break away from the US become whacka-doo countries that think they could last on their own.


most of those nutjobs and whacka-doos (lmao) all come from out of state, or at least most of them, and making us real floridians look bad...  :halo:

If you knew what was good for you, you'd leave the state (if you already haven't). xD


fla is pretty much a police state too, so many cops here...

and again, a lot of those cops come here from out of state...

The way you hate cops you think everything is a police state.
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The Supreme King said:
The second it happens a butt-load of embargoes will go down. It'll make Cuba's embargoes look like when your mom says no dessert until after you eat your veggies.

Why? If it happened it would be in a peaceful manner.
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Dee said:
Yes, please.  Take Florida and all the nutjobs that live there.  Matter-of-fact, let all the states that want to break away from the US become whacka-doo countries that think they could last on their own.

We are trying.
 
*thinks about the idea of Florida as an independent country* This sounds interesting...maybe they could take over Cuba as well; now there would be a powerful nation... :tup: :)
 
@"true liberty", i don't hate cops, i just don't like the ones that break the law and/or think they are above it...

and as far as florida being a police state, yes, i'ts very true...

do you really understand how many cops that are in florida?

and with out the u.s. military and the fed, florida will struggle in many aspects such as currency and monetary system, a military force to protect the land and people and to keep business here and/or to come to the new country...
 
Sure you don't hate cops.

Read the article military and currency would not be a problem in the least. Florida as a country would boom in its economy. We would be far better off from America who is destroying the state's economies and freedoms.
 
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