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Fox Misinformation

Fox News definitely made a mistake not doing their homework, but one point I'd like to make is that trips, such as the one to India, do cost millions. However, a 200 million figure is completely off the margin. It is what it is, plain and simple. Fox failed to do their research before reporting the information, and now they're paying for their mistake.
 
I think somewhere along the lines, Rupees and Dollars got mixed up...bit of a discrepancy lol.



The sad part isn't the initial mistake, which could have been easily fixed with an Oops! We have a retraction!, but how it was instead propagated throughout the network, and even if it originated as 'opinion', it moved onto news reporting like wildfire - the myth became 'fact'. Just like Obama is a 'Communist Muslim Nazi'...
 
el canadiano said:
What's that? Someone who they supposedly don't agree with and/or someone who's black?



Perhaps something like that...legend tells this mythical creature went by the name of Vladimir Hussein Hitler - I guess he's been reincarnated and the al-Qaeda has appointed him Sultan of the Caliphate of America. At least that's what Glenn Beck told me.
 
Thank you for agreeing with my point mister leftover
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3J_QLtYqlk
 
I never said anything was wrong with it. From the two minutes I watched I found nothing wrong with it.



But that special features a stark contrast from Beck's usual programming.
 
In the beginning the question he is posing seems to have an obvious answer.. about these guys not being talked about in a history class. For me it seems the answer is quite simple, that these classes do not have enough time to delve into these brave individuals because there are many, for the most part history classes do not focus singularly on one person. In my United States history class the only people mentioned were those really driving the events of the times, whereas contributors and those who helped carry it out often got left in the dust. For instance, Benedict Arnold was never mentioned in my history class and I think the reason is simple, he really didn't affect American history, as disastrous as his betrayal was it did not affect the outcome of the war. That's why we haven't heard of these men.
 
Haha when I read the stupid titles that they put on these things I thought you might have actually found something. But really he has said nothing shocking. First of all what he said was true and has been a struggle since the very beginning, interpretation of this document, the constitution. Even in the very beginning there were disputes between almost everyone on how to interpret this document. In fact the first two political parties largely formed because of their divide on this issue (as well as the issue of federal govt. vs state govt.). The federalists sought a loose interpretation of the constitution, one that would allow for such things as a national bank (the federal reserve) as well as almost every other government program in place today. The Democratic-Republicans on the other hand were headed by Thomas Jefferson and James Madison and believed in a strict interpretation of the constitution. That mindset of following a strict interpretation has largely faded out of existence due to the impracticality of implementation. Following strictly what the document says wouldn't allow for a federal reserve, wouldn't even allow for congressional districts, the electoral college, judicial review (a widely accepted precedent established by John Marshall.. without it there would be no courts ruling things unconstitutional), jury of peers, marriage, the right to privacy and the right to vote (Full list: http://www.usconstitution.net/constnot.html).



Since the mindset that has been almost universally accepted has been a loose interpretation it becomes increasingly difficult to find a consensus on what the constitution is actually saying (what Ezra meant by confusing). Obviously none of the men who drafted the document are still around, so interpreting the constitution has become very challenging due to the subjective nature of doing so. He said it wouldn't really have an impact which is true, because everyone interprets the document differently and that is what congressmen have been acting on in the past, in the present and likely how they will continue to make legislative decisions in the future.



To me the people putting this out there seem to either not have watched the video, or are intentionally misinterpreting what he is saying for propaganda's sake simply because he didn't choose very good words to make his point.



Very reputable website you have there, I like this article headline that was linked to in the sidebar: The American Government Enables Worldwide Sharia by Censoring Critics of Radical Islam
 
Personally, I find Fox News and their programming to be good and fair. But then again, I am also a conservative.
 
DrLeftover said:





Temerit said:
Haha when I read the stupid titles that they put on these things I thought you might have actually found something. But really he has said nothing shocking. First of all what he said was true and has been a struggle since the very beginning, interpretation of this document, the constitution. Even in the very beginning there were disputes between almost everyone on how to interpret this document. In fact the first two political parties largely formed because of their divide on this issue (as well as the issue of federal govt. vs state govt.). The federalists sought a loose interpretation of the constitution, one that would allow for such things as a national bank (the federal reserve) as well as almost every other government program in place today. The Democratic-Republicans on the other hand were headed by Thomas Jefferson and James Madison and believed in a strict interpretation of the constitution. That mindset of following a strict interpretation has largely faded out of existence due to the impracticality of implementation. Following strictly what the document says wouldn't allow for a federal reserve, wouldn't even allow for congressional districts, the electoral college, judicial review (a widely accepted precedent established by John Marshall.. without it there would be no courts ruling things unconstitutional), jury of peers, marriage, the right to privacy and the right to vote (Full list: http://www.usconstit...t/constnot.html).



Since the mindset that has been almost universally accepted has been a loose interpretation it becomes increasingly difficult to find a consensus on what the constitution is actually saying (what Ezra meant by confusing). Obviously none of the men who drafted the document are still around, so interpreting the constitution has become very challenging due to the subjective nature of doing so. He said it wouldn't really have an impact which is true, because everyone interprets the document differently and that is what congressmen have been acting on in the past, in the present and likely how they will continue to make legislative decisions in the future.



To me the people putting this out there seem to either not have watched the video, or are intentionally misinterpreting what he is saying for propaganda's sake simply because he didn't choose very good words to make his point.



Very reputable website you have there, I like this article headline that was linked to in the sidebar: The American Government Enables Worldwide Sharia by Censoring Critics of Radical Islam





avguste said:
Personally, I find Fox News and their programming to be good and fair. But then again, I am also a conservative.



^^^ See, folks, this is what I mean. Really, we can sit here debating all day and night - basically no one is going to change their minds on their respective viewpoints. It's basically that bias concept I was discussing in another thread. People will generally view favourably what they want to hear. Something they don't like hearing they will push away and deride. Thus why we see the networks with a particular slant or another.



A good example of how you can take one thing and put two different perspectives on it to make it sound like something or another is YouTube videos of movie trailers, say like an innocent, generally merry film like Mary Poppins, and making it look like a horror movie. We all know Mary Poppins isn't a horror movie, but if you look up on YouTube for Horror trailers of Mary Poppins, there are numerous examples of how quite innocent films can be made to appear quite sinister.



What is the saddest point of this all is that either side can tend to want to treat things like concrete. One way or the other. Black and White. It's unfortunate that things aren't looked at with a little more flexibility and understanding from each particular polar point. Humans, while sharing a common set of circumstances in the basest form of existence, are not concrete, but rather dynamic beings - a singular strategy to organisation of any form, whether political or otherwise is one likely set to fail.
 
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