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HIV
- Thread starter Tales
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Tales said:
Well just hope that the virus doesn't evolve further into something more dangerous just it has been doing for 5 decades.
But just to add something not everyone gets AIDS from blood transfusion, some get it from being well ya.... so how then?[/quote]
And some get it from birth by their mother. Why should they be punished for something completely out of their control? SARS and Contagious Diseases are quarantined because they are well contagious. You can't get HIV from normal day to day contact as you can with those. We haven't been soft on HIV. We have stigmatized it as bad and should be kept hush hush.
Dilly! said:
Well just hope that the virus doesn't evolve further into something more dangerous just it has been doing for 5 decades.
But just to add something not everyone gets AIDS from blood transfusion, some get it from being well ya.... so how then?[/quote]
And some get it from birth by their mother. Why should they be punished for something completely out of their control? SARS and Contagious Diseases are quarantined because they are well contagious. You can't get HIV from normal day to day contact as you can with those. We haven't been soft on HIV. We have stigmatized it as bad and should be kept hush hush.[/quote]
QFT. When a mother has HIV, you have a 90% chance of receiving through birth. Should these people be punished? You can't get AIDS from hand contact, and even kissing, you need to drink 18 litres of saliva. So, that leaves sex, and dirty needles. Dirty needles can be lack on the part of a hospital, but generally doesn't happen. It's the druggies. Sex, you are legally required to tell if you have it. So, in general statements, play it safe, and you will be safe.
Skillet said:
Paul Michael Glasier (I think the spelling is right) lost his wife, and at least one child (maybe 2) to AIDS/HIV. His wife received a blood transfusion during pregnancy, and passed it on to both children before it was diagnosed. (she didn't fit the early demographic--she wasn't a gay man, nor was she a drug user) But anyway, it is difficult to know what is 'right' in this type situation.
As far as the argument you are legally required to tell if you have it guys and girls don't tell if they are married (which is a lot less of a secret, than aids) or if they have herpes, or even the number of partners they've had in the past.....that could be a dangerous thing to put your trust in.
Princess said:
Paul Michael Glasier (I think the spelling is right) lost his wife, and at least one child (maybe 2) to AIDS/HIV. His wife received a blood transfusion during pregnancy, and passed it on to both children before it was diagnosed. (she didn't fit the early demographic--she wasn't a gay man, nor was she a drug user) But anyway, it is difficult to know what is 'right' in this type situation.
As far as the argument you are legally required to tell if you have it guys and girls don't tell if they are married (which is a lot less of a secret, than aids) or if they have herpes, or even the number of partners they've had in the past.....that could be a dangerous thing to put your trust in.[/quote]
It is, but it's the law. It isn't all black and white. And no, it isn't a great thing to put your trust in. You should know the risks of unprotected sex, and be prepared. If you are married, I just hope the person would have the decency to tell you.
OK but that's marriage right. What if you caught AIDS from your first love? Also I believe in youngsters today, they will go thru a lot of partners before they eventually mature and settle down. What if in this natural process, they caught it unknowingly.
Ya know I have a friend becos of this disease, he changed his Casanova ways.
He wasn't infected by he almost .... well wanted to sleep with that lass he just saw at a disco sometime ago but he didn't. then a friend told him that that lass was said to be infected.
Ya know I have a friend becos of this disease, he changed his Casanova ways.
He wasn't infected by he almost .... well wanted to sleep with that lass he just saw at a disco sometime ago but he didn't. then a friend told him that that lass was said to be infected.
Tales said:
In Canada, ignorance of the law is not an acceptable defense. But if you HONESTLY didn't realize you were doing wrong, you can say that. That's vague and confusing. Let me try to explain it. Ok. So say you sleep with someone under 18, and you are say 35. You can not say that you thought they were 18.
Now a different example with the other one: Say some poachers hunt in restricted zone, but no signs are posted, and it is 4 AM, to get the best hunt. They are then not in the wrong.
Using this logic, my assumption is that it is your duty to regularly get tested for STD's and STI's. If you took reasonable limits to prevent something from happening, you probably wouldn't be charged. But if you never get tested for AIDS and you had it, you can't use that as a defense. Make sense?
You should always trust the one person that looks out for you (that is assuming you aren't in a long-term relationship) and that is you. You shouldn't take the other person's word for anything. If you're a guy--don't take a girls word that she's on the pill--use a condom. Girls--if the guy won't wear a condom--don't have sex with him.
KNOW YOUR PARTNERS! This has been a message from the Princess Over-Protective Mother Network. You may now return to your regularly scheduled program.
Seriously--I have always told my kids (boys and girls) to look out for yourself. Please keep yourself safe.
KNOW YOUR PARTNERS! This has been a message from the Princess Over-Protective Mother Network. You may now return to your regularly scheduled program.
Seriously--I have always told my kids (boys and girls) to look out for yourself. Please keep yourself safe.
linking from my Precocious Puberty topic here.
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this is worrying trend indeed. If kids are getting sexual transmitted diseases this young... I think catching HIV wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility.
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this is worrying trend indeed. If kids are getting sexual transmitted diseases this young... I think catching HIV wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility.
An adult knows but does the kid know? And dunno about sex education in the west whether its working or not?
but I think the media and society has a role to play. Basically kids are too weak willed to stand up against peer pressure.
but I think the media and society has a role to play. Basically kids are too weak willed to stand up against peer pressure.
But on the topic on hand, HIV, I stated the problem is in Africa. This doesn't relate directly to earlier puberty, just an overall ignorance of whats going on. HIV is not a problem in Canada or USA like it is there. So how do you suggest we fix the problem in AFRICA? Because sure, you can tell me how to fix the .1% of people with it here in Canada, but I wanna know about the 40% in other countries.
In Africa I really dunno since it's becos that's the epic center of the virus. If the people in high places can't help, I am not too sure. I think it's the poverty and ignorance and even denial that's causing the problem. But this is the not the time to finger point but rather to solve the problem. Humans spent a lot of time pointing fingers at others but not pointing the finger at the problem itself.
In Asia becos of growing affluence, they are getting more aware but traditional pressures on females and males are still there and causing a bit of problem.
In Asia becos of growing affluence, they are getting more aware but traditional pressures on females and males are still there and causing a bit of problem.
But society pressures also play some role in Asian societies..
for example here in Asia, Males are allowed to be bold and go out and try. While Females are supposed to be like virgins in some cultures but now in modern Asian societies females are getting more daring having being released from traditions for thousands of years. But most still try to keep within societial pressures.
For example if a Asian woman were to be promiscuous like Sex and the City that could jeopardize her chances of finding a husband and also being despised by her female friends.
So in Asia, if we talk about HIV, the image of playboy or a adulterous husband comes to mind.
for example here in Asia, Males are allowed to be bold and go out and try. While Females are supposed to be like virgins in some cultures but now in modern Asian societies females are getting more daring having being released from traditions for thousands of years. But most still try to keep within societial pressures.
For example if a Asian woman were to be promiscuous like Sex and the City that could jeopardize her chances of finding a husband and also being despised by her female friends.
So in Asia, if we talk about HIV, the image of playboy or a adulterous husband comes to mind.
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