is wal*mart bad or good?

[+paradox]

is wal*mart bad or good?

explain your answer...

 

[seasidemike]

If Wal*mart wasn't good, it would not have been as successful as it has been.
People ultimately decide what is good or bad by where they spend their money.

 

[+paradox]

If Wal*mart wasn't good, it would not have been as successful as it has been.
People ultimately decide what is good or bad by where they spend their money.

the mafia and the drug cartels were successful in the past and some still are, are they good?

most stuff that wal*mart sells is from china, is china good? does china have slave labor camps and children labor camps to make cheap toys so americans can buy low cost toys for their children, and then complain that their child's toys have lead and other poisons in them?

 

[seasidemike]

If Wal*mart wasn't good, it would not have been as successful as it has been.
People ultimately decide what is good or bad by where they spend their money.

the mafia and the drug cartels were successful in the past and some still are, are they good?

most stuff that wal*mart sells is from china, is china good? does china have slave labor camps and children labor camps to make cheap toys so americans can buy low cost toys for their children, and then complain that their child's toys have lead and other poisons in them?

so why single out Wal*mart then?
Don't the oil companies exploit third world countries and support corrupt governments?
Don't the weapon manufacturers sell to anyone, even to both sided of a conflict in the name of profit?
Aren't Western businesses the biggest investors into Chinese companies?
Wasn't the garment company's building that collapsed in Pakistan killing hundreds of people who were working for slave labour wages making cloths for large scale Western cloths companies, and designer labels?
What about the Apple Ipone manufacturing facility in China that needed to put in suicide proofing in the workplace as it had the highest rate of work place suicides in China, so we can buy our most recent release of an Iphone for as little as possible?

Is any of it good?

 

[+paradox]

see, you're changing the subject, we are talking about wal*mart, not anything else...

yes to all of your question exempt that last question...

no, none of that is good... but you said wal*mart was...

 

[seasidemike]

see, you're changing the subject, we are talking about wal*mart, not anything else...

yes to all of your question exempt that last question...

no, none of that is good... but you said wal*mart was...

I only moved off topic because you introduced mafia and cartels into the topic, so yes, reverting back to the subject of the big W
The one difference is that with W people have and make their choices where to shop, if people choose to shop there then W is providing a service that is wanted, and creating employment. So on that basis, the shopper has decided that W is good.

 

[+paradox]

i introduced things that are bad and successful because of your claim of "if something is successful then it must be good"...

many people must go to wal*mart as it's the nearest cheapest place to shop as oppose to other grocery stores and shops...

 

[seasidemike]

i introduced things that are bad and successful because of your claim of "if something is successful then it must be good"...

many people must go to wal*mart as it's the nearest cheapest place to shop as oppose to other grocery stores and shops...

Then what would be the argument for them being 'bad'?

 

[+paradox]

i introduced things that are bad and successful because of your claim of "if something is successful then it must be good"...

many people must go to wal*mart as it's the nearest cheapest place to shop as oppose to other grocery stores and shops...

Then what would be the argument for them being 'bad'?

that was my original question...

 

[seasidemike]

i introduced things that are bad and successful because of your claim of "if something is successful then it must be good"...

many people must go to wal*mart as it's the nearest cheapest place to shop as oppose to other grocery stores and shops...

Then what would be the argument for them being 'bad'?

that was my original question...

Right, fair enough.. then I guess the bad would be all the stuff that falls under big business vs ma & pa shops.

W strategically places it stores in locations which draw in from a maximum area usually requirement a commute. As a result, small town centres are left vacant and small business that do not have big buying power and cannot compete, so you are left with small towns with white washed windows.

Because of the buying power of W they can really force down supplier prices, which then will either push suppliers either out of business, or seek their products from lower cost locations like China etc which as result means more lost jobs for local industry.

The net effect is that due to the lower wages people will accept for local employment, they are then in a way limited in their purchase choices and will need the lower cost items offered by companies like W, making the issue cyclical: Lower wages resulting in needed cheaper products, creating demand for low cost products from low cost countries, resulting in lost local jobs, resulting in more people needing min wage jobs at W

 

[+paradox]

i introduced things that are bad and successful because of your claim of "if something is successful then it must be good"...

many people must go to wal*mart as it's the nearest cheapest place to shop as oppose to other grocery stores and shops...

Then what would be the argument for them being 'bad'?

that was my original question...

Right, fair enough.. then I guess the bad would be all the stuff that falls under big business vs ma & pa shops.

W strategically places it stores in locations which draw in from a maximum area usually requirement a commute.  As a result, small town centres are left vacant and small business that do not have big buying power and cannot compete, so you are left with small towns with white washed windows.

Because of the buying power of W they can really force down supplier prices, which then will either push suppliers either out of business, or seek their products from lower cost locations like China etc which as result means more lost jobs for local industry.

The net effect is that due to the lower wages people will accept for local employment, they are then in a way limited in their purchase choices and will need the lower cost items offered by companies like W, making the issue cyclical:  Lower wages resulting in needed cheaper products, creating demand for low cost products from low cost countries, resulting in lost local jobs, resulting in more people needing min wage jobs at W

see, you're getting it...

 

[Nebulous]

Wal-Mart is evil because it puts everything around it out of business.

People with limited incomes have to shop there because places like target, CVS, Rite-Aide charge $1+ MORE per item.  All that adds up and you could be spending an extra $50 at the checkout and walk away with the same exact products.

 

[DrLeftover]

It's a STORE.

You might as well ask if a frying pan was good or evil.

 

[+paradox]

It's a STORE.

You might as well ask if a frying pan was good or evil.

that's not an accurate comparison...

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Wal-Mart is evil because it puts everything around it out of business.

People with limited incomes have to shop there because places like target, CVS, Rite-Aide charge $1+ MORE per item.  All that adds up and you could be spending an extra $50 at the checkout and walk away with the same exact products.

No not really. It actually brings in more businesses around it to open up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Y-o1fj1rX7A

 

[+paradox]

i actually watched that video the other day, that's why i created this thread in the first place...

i love peen and teller but with this one, they are wrong in many ways...

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

i actually watched that video the other day, that's why i created this thread in the first place...

i love peen and teller but with this one, they are wrong in many ways...

What a surprise we disagree 100%.

 

[+paradox]

i actually watched that video the other day, that's why i created this thread in the first place...

i love peen and teller but with this one, they are wrong in many ways...

What a surprise we disagree 100%.

obviously, you disagree with facts once again...

who knew?

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Well no Penn gave the actual facts about Walmart and the good they do despite how the haters want to hate from the lack of facts or there own anti capitalist beliefs.

 

[+paradox]

Well no Penn gave the actual facts about Walmart and the good they do despite how the haters want to hate from the lack of facts or there own anti capitalist beliefs.

they are able to do "good" because they are doing bad...

penn made it a point to make a few people look bad or stupid, and failed to bring up many and many of things that wal*mart does... he was biased from the beginning to the end...