is wal*mart bad or good?

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Well no Penn gave the actual facts about Walmart and the good they do despite how the haters want to hate from the lack of facts or there own anti capitalist beliefs.

they are able to do "good" because they are doing bad...

It is keeping other countries like the Chinese working even if the pay is low. And it is providing the largest amount of jobs under one company in America. Other businesses grow in numbers around every walmart. Walmart provides a half a billion in charity every year. Not much bad but overall good.

 

[+paradox]

Well no Penn gave the actual facts about Walmart and the good they do despite how the haters want to hate from the lack of facts or there own anti capitalist beliefs.

they are able to do "good" because they are doing bad...

It is keeping other countries like the Chinese working even if the pay is low. And it is providing the largest amount of jobs under one company in America. Other businesses grow in numbers around every walmart. Walmart provides a half a billion in charity every year. Not much bad but overall good.

yeah, and forcing children to make your cheap ipad and poisoned kid's toy... great job wal*mart and china!

it's a fact that businesses closed due to wal*mart, but you like to not think that's history because it goes against you...

 

[seasidemike]

It's a STORE.

You might as well ask if a frying pan was good or evil.

Great line

 

[+paradox]

It's a STORE.

You might as well ask if a frying pan was good or evil.

Great line

the difference is that one is a multibillion dollar company and the other is, well, a frying pan...

no comparison whatsoever...

like, not even 1%, wait... not even 0.00000000000000001% of a comparison...

 

[seasidemike]

But back to my original point, the ultimate judge and jury is the shopper and where they choose to spend their money.
If people do not like or want W or see them as 'bad' then support the local businesses and stop shopping at W.

 

[+paradox]

But back to my original point, the ultimate judge and jury is the shopper and where they choose to spend their money.
If people do not like or want W or see them as 'bad' then support the local businesses and stop shopping at W.

that's the sad part of it though, most people don't really have a choice in the matter...

get more for cheap or not go to wal*mart and get the same for more...

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Well no Penn gave the actual facts about Walmart and the good they do despite how the haters want to hate from the lack of facts or there own anti capitalist beliefs.

they are able to do "good" because they are doing bad...

It is keeping other countries like the Chinese working even if the pay is low. And it is providing the largest amount of jobs under one company in America. Other businesses grow in numbers around every walmart. Walmart provides a half a billion in charity every year. Not much bad but overall good.

yeah, and forcing children to make your cheap ipad and poisoned kid's toy... great job wal*mart and china!

it's a fact that businesses closed due to wal*mart, but you like to not think that's history because it goes against you...

Thanks to Walmart and the American people buying Walmarts products which they buy from china the Chinese people have been able to force the government to slowly increase wages and give better working conditions. Where before they would not be working at all or for even less pay. So yeah Walmart does much more good then bad.

Businesses always close because of other businesses. But in fact when you see a new Walmart open up they immediately get surrounded by strip mall businesses of various different kinds and fast food joints that provide more jobs. Would be happy to show photos of businesses all around the walmarts on my daily travels around central Florida in case you have never seen a Walmart before?

 

[Nebulous]

Wal-Mart is evil because it puts everything around it out of business.

No not really. It actually brings in more businesses around it to open up.

I've seen it!

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Wal-Mart is evil because it puts everything around it out of business.

No not really. It actually brings in more businesses around it to open up.

I've seen it!

You have seen what I said or what you said?

I remember when Walmart was switching from a regular Walmart to a Superwalmart all through central Florida in the mid 1990s into the 2000s. They would shut down the original building and move into the new building. And all the businesses shriveled up and died soon after where the original was. Now you go to any walmart in Orlando and they have built strip malls all over the front of these Walmarts that hold a dozen businesses at least. And then next to the strip malls the fast food joints open up like steak and shake and that chain Chinese food place called Panda I think. But all that said I much prefer target and am not crazy about going to Walmart. Matter of fact have not been in a Walmart for almost ten years.

 

[+paradox]

actually, in most cases when wal*mart buy their land and build their building, they themselves built smaller shopping strip-malls so they can lease them out to people/companies... other large companies does this as well and it's only logical that small businesses flock around big businesses, such as publix, lowe's, home depot, target, kroger, food lion, winn-dixie, etc...

before wal*mart was popular you had other large chain grocery stores that always had small businesses around them... this is nothing new so you give wal*mart too much credit...

and by saying wal*mart is not bad because they are helping china's economy is crazy talk...

wal*mart is helping a country that makes children work and killing off small business...

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

How other bussinesses get there is irrelevant. Small, medium and large sized businesses flock around Walmart.

Its not crazy talk it is a great thing. When people get a taste of money and the freedom it can give it in this case forces a oppressive government to slowly loosen the reigns on the people. Higher standards of pay is happening for the Chinese, better working hours and benefitsalso.All because of capitalism and the fear that China can't reverse course when they have a economy that needs to handle two billion people. I for one am glad Walmart is here.

 

[+paradox]

yeah, because you're crazy and see everything half-assed backwards...

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

And loses self control once again in debate. So predictable.

 

[+paradox]

i didn't lose control of myself, i'm in complete control of myself, body and mind...

can't say the same for you though...

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

actually, in most cases when wal*mart buy their land and build their building, they themselves built smaller shopping strip-malls so they can lease them out to people/companies... other large companies does this as well and it's only logical that small businesses flock around big businesses, such as publix, lowe's, home depot, target, kroger, food lion, winn-dixie, etc...

before wal*mart was popular you had other large chain grocery stores that always had small businesses around them... this is nothing new so you give wal*mart too much credit...

and by saying wal*mart is not bad because they are helping china's economy is crazy talk...

wal*mart is helping a country that makes children work and killing off small business...

i didn't lose control of myself, i'm in complete control of myself, body and mind...

can't say the same for you though...

Maybe those things you mentioned but not here in any debate with prolonged disagreement.

 

[+paradox]

actually, in most cases when wal*mart buy their land and build their building, they themselves built smaller shopping strip-malls so they can lease them out to people/companies... other large companies does this as well and it's only logical that small businesses flock around big businesses, such as publix, lowe's, home depot, target, kroger, food lion, winn-dixie, etc...

before wal*mart was popular you had other large chain grocery stores that always had small businesses around them... this is nothing new so you give wal*mart too much credit...

and by saying wal*mart is not bad because they are helping china's economy is crazy talk...

wal*mart is helping a country that makes children work and killing off small business...

i didn't lose control of myself, i'm in complete control of myself, body and mind...

can't say the same for you though...

Maybe those things you mentioned but not here in any debate with prolonged disagreement.

because you are crazy...

pretty much everything you say and believe in, regarding political and non-religious beliefs are just insane... regarding wal*mart as the savior of china and the best for the american people just makes me sick even hearing/reading it...

but i guess you're in favor of child labor camps... it's all good as long as you get your cheap crap for cheap, right?

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

And on e again off the rails.

 

[Dee]

Let's cool it down with the crazy talk, aight? Either disprove with facts/evidence or lay off the name-calling.

As for my two cents, yeah, walmart is bad. It's your typical evil corporation who pays its workers shit to work a shitty job with little incentive to move up to a higher paying job when it knows damn well it could be the next Costco. It just refuses to because of greed.

 

[+paradox]

wal* mart is good compared to some guy purposely shooting your pet and giving you $10,000 to pretend that he's a good person but want you to forget about the whole 'shooting the pet' thing...

doing "good deeds" after doing evil and bad deeds does not automatically make the evil and bad things magically go away...

and wal*mart is not innocent...

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

As for my two cents, yeah, walmart is bad.  It's your typical evil corporation who pays its workers shit to work a shitty job with little incentive to move up to a higher paying job when it knows damn well it could be the next Costco.  It just refuses to because of greed.

Lets see they provide the poorest of the poorest over seas a job and income they would never have otherwise. Evil? No.

The average starting pay of a Walmart employee is 11.81 and that is over the minimum wage for a basic job that requires minimal thinking. How much do you think they should be making for basic job that requires no skill set?

Managers in Walmart make quite a good living with good benefits. So for a employee starting out at Walmart that is your incentive to know if I actually work hard and earn my up in the company there can be a good salary in the future. How can that not be a incentive? Everybody wants things so easily with minimal effort. If you do not want basic pay stay longer and do better in school. Otherwise work from the bottom ranks hard for several years and earn your way up. I did it from being a porter for a apartment complex to owning my own business and it took twenty years.

Well Costco is not cheap buy two or three items in bulk and you rack up over a hundred dollars pretty quick. It may have some good deals but that is for middle income people who want to buy in bulk but again it is not cheap. So they can afford to pay there employees slightly more then Walmart. The average Walmart shopper can't afford Costco. But they can afford Walmart because they keep there overhead low from employees to the products they get for there customers over seas. Well big raises for all means higher prices for the people who rely on Walmart for the cheap prices. Specially for senior citizens who like using Walmart for the cheapest prescription prices out there that has forced the competitors to lower there prices also.

They are a great company providing a great service for the lower class Americans.