Ron Paul, Confederate Sympathizer

[Webster]

...why doesn't this surprise me?

Ron Paul, the cult candidate who beta-tested tea parties for the Koch brothers, has confirmed that he does in fact approve of secessionist movements in the United States, calling them a ‘check' on the power of the federal government.

"I think what is most important is we have a concrete right to secede," Paul said. "Even if we never had any secession, or any state declare independence, we would be so much better off, because there would always be this threat. Once the threat of a state leaving was removed, it was just open-door policy for the federal government to expand itself and run roughshod out over the states because the states couldn't do much."

In fact, no ‘concrete right to secede' exists in the Constitution or American law, and the attempted secession of Southern states from the union in 1861 resulted in some 750,000 American deaths over four years while the rebellion was put down. Paul is aware of this violent history, telling the National Journal that "the heavy hand of the federal government would come down," but in contrast to his outspoken antiwar message, Paul remains enthusiastic about the prospect of a bloody Second Civil War at home.

The contradiction is no surprise to anyone who has ever looked past his glib libertarian exterior. In addition to supervising his infamous racist newsletter, Paul has maintained such close ties with white supremacists over the years that Stormfront website founder Don Black considered him "one of us" - a praise echoed by former Klansman David Duke and the Montana Militia.

Clearly, Ron Paul is only mad about foreign wars because they involve foreigners, whereas he seems quite accepting of a Second Civil War right here on the home front to secure permanent white supremacy - or as he calls it, "freedom." Paul's stance on so-called "states' rights" (as opposed to ‘Big Government') is actually just a convenient cover for his desire to devolve civil rights onto fifty smaller governments, where as in 1861, they can be suppressed much more easily.

Ron Paul was the first Republican politician to hold a tea party in December 2007, but the ‘astroturf' movement had actually been under development over the previous five years by the Koch brothers' organization Citizens for a Sound Economy, which spun off FreedomWorks in 2004. Ron Paul was the very first chairman of CSE when it formed in 1984 - well before his racist newsletters, and perfectly in line with other pet projects by Charles and David Koch.(Breitbart Unmasked)

Thoughts?

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Florida independence sounds like a great thing. We need to get out before it all goes to hell in the near future. Our economy with no state tax would boom over night without a federal government on our necks.

 

[Webster]

Florida independence sounds like a great thing. We need to get out before it all goes to hell in the near future. Our economy with no state tax would boom over night without a federal government on our necks.

You know, last time I checked, the Confederates' - you know, the people who seem to support Mr. Paul - tried leaving 149 years and rightfully got their rear ends handed to them...what, does Ron Paul & Company want another lesson? Sometimes, Liberty, I think the North should've treated the South as America and the Allies treated Germany & Japan post-WW2: as occupied territories, stripped of everything, de-Nazified and broken apart....then maybe America would be a better place than it is now.

 

[DrLeftover]

oh, Jesus

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Florida independence sounds like a great thing. We need to get out before it all goes to hell in the near future. Our economy with no state tax would boom over night without a federal government on our necks.

You know, last time I checked, the Confederates' - you know, the people who seem to support Mr. Paul - tried leaving 149 years and rightfully got their rear ends handed to them...what, does Ron Paul & Company want another lesson? Sometimes, Liberty, I think the North should've treated the South as America and the Allies treated Germany & Japan post-WW2: as occupied territories, stripped of everything, de-Nazified and broken apart....then maybe America would be a better place than it is now.

There are no more confederates just so you know. Probably wont be another civil war either. As the country keeps declining eventually the states all over north and south are going to start ignoring the federal government and by that time the dollar will have collapsed and stopped being the world currency. And the government just wont have the resources to stop it. I predict 10 maybe 15 years before all this begins. Maybe even sooner with China and Russia starting to trade by purposely bypassing the American dollar.

 

[DrLeftover]

Our friend probably has no idea which flag this is.

 

[Webster]

Our friend probably has no idea which flag this is.

That would be the First Flag of the Confederacy, if I'm not mistaken, which is just as treasonous a symbol as that other Confederate rag.

 

[Webster]

There are no more confederates just so you know. Probably wont be another civil war either. As the country keeps declining eventually the states all over north and south are going to start ignoring the federal government and by that time the dollar will have collapsed and stopped being the world currency. And the government just wont have the resources to stop it. I predict 10 maybe 15 years before all this begins. Maybe even sooner with China and Russia starting to trade by purposely bypassing the American dollar.

No more Confederates, huh?

What about these morons....

...or these....

...or these benighted geniuses....

...should I continue?

 

[DrLeftover]

Our friend probably has no idea which flag this is.

That would be the First Flag of the Confederacy, if I'm not mistaken, which is just as treasonous a symbol as that other Confederate rag.

Well done, although by the number of stars, I believe, it would be a later edition of the first flag.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

There are no more confederates just so you know. Probably wont be another civil war either. As the country keeps declining eventually the states all over north and south are going to start ignoring the federal government and by that time the dollar will have collapsed and stopped being the world currency. And the government just wont have the resources to stop it. I predict 10 maybe 15 years before all this begins. Maybe even sooner with China and Russia starting to trade by purposely bypassing the American dollar.

No more Confederates, huh?

What about these morons....

...or these....

...or these benighted geniuses....

...should I continue?

Yes no more confederates. Just because people use that flag as a symbol of freedom (which I would never do) there still are no confederates anymore.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Florida also used this one.

 

[Webster]

Yes no more confederates. Just because people use that flag as a symbol of freedom (which I would never do) there still are no confederates anymore.

If the Confederate rag - which is what it is - is a symbol of freedom, what does that make the United States flag, Liberty? A symbol of oppression?

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Yes no more confederates. Just because people use that flag as a symbol of freedom (which I would never do) there still are no confederates anymore.

If the Confederate rag - which is what it is - is a symbol of freedom, what does that make the United States flag, Liberty? A symbol of oppression?

The American flag no way. But veterans and American people are starting to see it that way from our government in todays America.