Same-Sex Marriage Legal In All 50 States, SCOTUS Rules

[Mortiferr]

I'm happy for this. I'm glad those people who want to get married can now legally do it. However, one concern:

This decision was very sudden. You would think that there would be some uprising in the media or some other hint that it was coming, but there was no warning. This in itself is not an issue, but it makes you wonder if the government is diverting the public's attention on purpose. Maybe to de-focus them on a more important or controversial matter.

 

[identityissues8]

I'm happy for this. I'm glad those people who want to get married can now legally do it. However, one concern:

This decision was very sudden. You would think that there would be some uprising in the media or some other hint that it was coming, but there was no warning. This in itself is not an issue, but it makes you wonder if the government is diverting the public's attention on purpose. Maybe to de-focus them on a more important or controversial matter.

So the societal pressure mounting on this very issue for the past 10 years wasn't enough?
Australia will be next.

 

[Mortiferr]

So the societal pressure mounting on this very issue for the past 10 years wasn't enough?
Australia will be next.

That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is the same-sex marriage thing had been quiet in the news for a while. You would think there would be increased pressure in media instead of a sudden announcement.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

"If you are among the many Americans — of whatever sexual orientation — who favor expanding same-sex marriage, by all means celebrate today's decision. But do not celebrate the Constitution. It had nothing to do with it."
-Chief Justice John Roberts

http://america.aljazeera.com/articl...es-gay-marriage-legal-across-the-country.html

This is beyond the truth. But our Supreme court has not been consistently ruling based on the Constitution for quite some time. They have become law makers not law upholders.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Our church is now preparing to give up its tax exempt status because the minister and the elders are certain that the state will attempt to force churches to conduct same sex weddings and hold the exemption over their heads to coerce them.

The US Attorney that argued the case in front of the Supreme Court talked around the issue, but did not say that such an action would not happen.

That is the repercussions of the action.

Oh this is just the beginning our activists judges set into motion. This is the dominos falling leading down to threatening freedom of speech and gun rights. People do not see it now but they will in the coming years. They will.

Ted Cruz continued his verbal assault on last week’s historic Supreme Court decisions on Monday, saying the justices who ruled in favor of Obamacare and gay marriage “rewrote the Constitution.”

“They joined a team, they put on bright-blue Obama jerseys, and they rewrote the law,” the U.S. senator from Texas told Yahoo News’ Katie Couric during a live sit-down interview from Yahoo’s New York City studios. “Those decisions are a threat to our democracy.”

Cruz slammed Chief Justice John Roberts, who wrote the majority opinion in the Obamacare case on behalf of what the 2016 Republican presidential hopeful called “five unelected lawyers.”

“I think the chief justice believes somehow that by rewriting Obamacare, he’s keeping the Supreme Court out of politics,” Cruz said. “But sadly, these will go down in his legacy as the most political decisions he has ever made. And [they are] violating his oath of office.”

The court’s decision to effectively legalize same-sex marriage in every state, Cruz said, is a “profound threat to the religious liberty to millions of men and women,” regardless of their faith.

The Supreme Court ruling extends to gay couples the ability to apply for and be granted state-issued marriage licenses, but some conservative religious leaders worry about being petitioned directly to take part in services or otherwise recognize marriages their faiths continue to oppose.

“Society has no right to force a Jewish rabbi to perform a Christian wedding ceremony,” he said. “Society has no right to force a Muslim imam to perform a Jewish wedding ceremony.”

“There’s nothing in the Constitution that demands we tear down the marriage laws in every state,” Cruz, a conservative Christian, continued. “I am eager to fight for religious liberty.”

Couric asked Cruz whether he’s out of step with public opinion on gay marriage because 60 percent of Americans believe same-sex marriages should be recognized as legal.

“I’m not at all,” Cruz said, blaming “liberals” and Hollywood for pushing the gay-marriage agenda.

The 44-year-old first-term senator vowed to expose what he called the “Washington cartel” in his run for the White House.

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/katie-couric-interviews-ted-cruz-ted-cruz-joined-122596925536.html

 

[Webster]

Oh this is just the beginning our activists judges set into motion. This is the dominos falling leading down to threatening freedom of speech and gun rights. People do not see it now but they will in the coming years. They will.

I wouldn't be too sure there, Liberty...this decision might've also had the unintended effect of legalizing concealed carry (and other gun laws) across all 50 states as well...quoting:

(Natural News) The legal argument of gay marriage proponents is that because gay marriage is legal in a majority of states, that "right" cannot be infringed by the remaining states which opposed gay marriage. The U.S. Supreme Court, in granting this new, nationwide right to gay marriage, cited the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution, Section 1, which states:

No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

The actual ruling text of the SCOTUS decision makes it clear that its "equal protection" logic would apply universally to concealed carry gun rights which already exist in a majority of states:

(1) The fundamental liberties protected by the Fourteenth Amendment's Due Process Clause extend to certain personal choices central to individual dignity and autonomy, including intimate choices defining personal identity and beliefs... When new insight reveals discord between the Constitution's central protections and a received legal stricture, a claim to liberty must be addressed. Applying these tenets, the Court has long held the right to marry is protected by the Constitution.

Similarly, the right to keep and bear arms has also long been protected by the Constitution and affirmed in multiple Supreme Court decisions, as early as last year. "In District of Columbia v Heller (2008) -- the SCOTUS ruled that the 2nd Amendment rights were 'fundamental' in and of themselves as well as 'fundamental to the Nation's scheme of ordered liberty'" writes Hawkins at Breitbart.com.

If this right to keep and bear arms (and to carry concealed firearms) is already recognized in some states, then by the Supreme Court's own precedent on gay marriage, that right cannot be denied in ANY state!

--Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/050237_SCOTUS_gun_laws_same-sex_marriage.html#ixzz3eVRZMY7S

If one follows Kennedy's logic in Obergefell, gun rights supporters just got handed a nice cudgel to use against the gun-grabbers...

 

[identityissues8]

That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is the same-sex marriage thing had been quiet in the news for a while. You would think there would be increased pressure in media instead of a sudden announcement.

I know full-well what you were saying, but by the same token - I still disagree.
We are are clearly following different media outlets.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

I wouldn't be too sure there, Liberty...this decision might've also had the unintended effect of legalizing concealed carry (and other gun laws) across all 50 states as well...quoting:
--Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/050237_SCOTUS_gun_laws_same-sex_marriage.html#ixzz3eVRZMY7S

If one follows Kennedy's logic in Obergefell, gun rights supporters just got handed a nice cudgel to use against the gun-grabbers...

I wouldn't be too sure there, Liberty...this decision might've also had the unintended effect of legalizing concealed carry (and other gun laws) across all 50 states as well...quoting:
--Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/050237_SCOTUS_gun_laws_same-sex_marriage.html#ixzz3eVRZMY7S

If one follows Kennedy's logic in Obergefell, gun rights supporters just got handed a nice cudgel to use against the gun-grabbers...

Oh I am sure! This nation is done. I am just happy I do not live in a big city. First up will be the leftist gay activist going after anyone and everyone who shows any sign of not supporting this. Businesses and churches are in the cross hairs.