Staff & Emotions

[Nebulous's iconNebulous]

Have you ever seen admins or moderators who use their emotions to determine when to punish a member?

Like if the member did nothing that was against the actual rules but perhaps said something or did something to upset a staff member.



Do you think staff should enforce the rules & do whats fair and leave their personal emotions out of it?

 

[beowulf]

yes and yes but no i dont want to go into details

 

[Nebulous's iconNebulous]

yes and yes but no i dont want to go into details

Now you have to.

 

[beowulf]

no i dont

 

[Nebulous's iconNebulous]

Well then what you said is a lie.

You've never seen nothing.

 

[beowulf]

i retract my statement then, your honour

i really cant be arsed to go into it, just got experience of a mod who lets personal feelings influence judgements

 

[Nebulous's iconNebulous]

I was on a forum and the admin was snooping through PM's and happened to read a supposedly private conversation with someone that had some not-too-flattering comments in it. So after he read the convo (a month after the fact) he did something to my account so I could not login anymore (I just get redirected to a blank white screen when I hit the login button).

I was not breaking any rules there & if he was upset by what he read, he should have discussed it with me 1st instead of screwing up my account.



Also if you are going to ban someone (even if it is totally unjustified and irrational), you should just ban them. Not do stupid things like that to their account.





P.S. Its best to take your private conversations to instant messengers or email and not do it over a PM system on a forum.

 

[DrLeftover]

I think everybody has seen it, some more than others.

 

[Jazzy]

Have you ever seen admins or moderators who use their emotions to determine when to punish a member?

I sure have and I have also been a victim of this myself.

Do you think staff should enforce the rules & do whats fair and leave their personal emotions out of it?

Admins and staff members are supposed to enforce the rules and be fair. If an Admin or staff member has a personal problem with a member, then they should step out and let the other staff members deal with it.

 

[Durandal]

I was on a forum and the admin was snooping through PM's and happened to read a supposedly private conversation with someone that had some not-too-flattering comments in it. So after he read the convo (a month after the fact) he did something to my account so I could not login anymore (I just get redirected to a blank white screen when I hit the login button).

I was not breaking any rules there & if he was upset by what he read, he should have discussed it with me 1st instead of screwing up my account.



Also if you are going to ban someone (even if it is totally unjustified and irrational), you should just ban them. Not do stupid things like that to their account.





P.S. Its best to take your private conversations to instant messengers or email and not do it over a PM system on a forum.

So, I take it you've already read my secret Nebulous is a poopy-face PM conversation?

Just jokin'.



Are you sure that the admin was actually responsible for what you describe? That would require some serious screwing around unless he was actually hosting the site on his own server. Or you got phished hardcore...?



While an admin is supposed to administrate and a moderator is supposed to moderate, with home-grown sites (which is most forums that aren't business related), impartiality goes out the window many times.

 

[Cinnamon]

I have to say this. The sadness I find in this subject is that people get emotional online. Never quite figured that out. WHY oh why oh why?



I wish for everyone who climbs online to realize the LOVE they have in their own real lives ... which is not on their mouse. Nobody ever wished to be buried with their mouse. Very sad. Move along and get it going on in the real world.



AMEN!

 

[Greg]

I can't say I have seen this happen as of yet but I think Administrators&Moderators should abide by and enforce the rules.

Greg

 

[Nebulous's iconNebulous]

Are you sure that the admin was actually responsible for what you describe? That would require some serious screwing around unless he was actually hosting the site on his own server.

Yes, he told me on another forum what he did.

Also its not really hard to read forum PM's if you're nosy admin who enjoys snooping and reading peoples private conversations for your own entertainment.

(Some softwares have a PM reader modification you can install, otherwise you can go into the cPanel, then to phpmyadmin, then read the tables in there that contain the private message data.)

 

[Jazzy]

Thanks for letting everyone know how to do it Nebulous!

 

[Nebulous's iconNebulous]

Thanks for letting everyone know how to do it Nebulous!

Its not a secret.

 

[Durandal]

Yes, he told me on another forum what he did.

Also its not really hard to read forum PM's if you're nosy admin who enjoys snooping and reading peoples private conversations for your own entertainment.

(Some softwares have a PM reader modification you can install, otherwise you can go into the cPanel, then to phpmyadmin, then read the tables in there that contain the private message data.)

No, I knew that much lmao...I mean the log-in re-direct...that seems a bit wonky...I could see it generating a banned message, or a code error, but just sending you into the nether means something outside of the actual site would've been done (re-coding the function in the actual source code to target only you, and he'd have to know an origination address, and not just an external mask...)...

 

[Nebulous's iconNebulous]

No, I knew that much lmao...I mean the log-in re-direct...that seems a bit wonky...I could see it generating a banned message, or a code error, but just sending you into the nether means something outside of the actual site would've been done (re-coding the function in the actual source code to target only you, and he'd have to know an origination address, and not just an external mask...)...

They have modifications of different softwares built just to screw with members the admin's dont like.

 

[Durandal]

They have modifications of different softwares built just to screw with members the admin's dont like.

...but would that not either affect all the members, or they put up another instance just for you, which would be a pretty hardcore vendetta (not that I doubt the guy was petty enough to do it), unless there's something I don't know.

 

[Nebulous's iconNebulous]

...but would that not either affect all the members, or they put up another instance just for you, which would be a pretty hardcore vendetta (not that I doubt the guy was petty enough to do it), unless there's something I don't know.

You dont know much about forum software's do you.

A person can make each individual account do different things if they want. Its not all or nothing.

 

[Durandal]

You dont know much about forum software's do you.

A person can make each individual account do different things if they want. Its not all or nothing.

Yeah, but that's within the domain of the actual software. You said he made your browser go to a blank page. That's a browser/network control thing, beyond the scope of a forum. Unless you mean a blank page still within the domain...then we're just mis-communicating here.



I understand that an admin CP can make users have a destination to where-ever the admin wants, I think something was lost in translation here...