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The Rise & Fall of Allison Mack

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Warning: This video contains flashing lights that may not be suitable for people with photosensitivity or epilepsy.

0:00 Intro
1:56 A Star Rises
6:55 NXIVM
16:51 Mack Attack
20:52 On Stage & Broke
33:51 Mack Gets Wack
40:52 The Downfall
52:56 Conclusion

This documentary is about Allison Mack, the former Smallville and Wilfred actress who went to prison. Thanks for watching!

Toni Natalie, who is the brunette featured in the early photos with Keith in this documentary, is the ex-girlfriend of Keith Raniere. Toni wrote the book, 'The Program: Inside the Mind of Keith Raniere and the Rise and Fall of NXIVM'. Her book explains the early days of Keith and Nancy - 20 years of the relentless pursuit using the legal system, and how they built the criminal enterprise that is NXIVM. You can find her book and more about Toni at https://thefallofnxivm.com/
 
It's incredible that anyone could convince another person into willing slavery and branding. Cults suck.
 
It's incredible that anyone could convince another person into willing slavery and branding. Cults suck.
TV Tropes had a few things to say about her...
A lot of stuff regarding Chloe Sullivan became much harder to watch after Allison Mack was discovered to have been involved in a sex-traffiking cult and was later arrested and sentenced to prison.
--In Season 3, Chloe and Clark's friendship takes a hit when he learns she was secretly working for Lionel Luthor behind his back. The shock and anger of this perceived betrayal seems darkly predictive of the same feelings fans had after hearing of Mack's involvement in sex trafficking.
--At the end of Season 7, Chloe is arrested by a group posing as the FBI; Mack was arrested by the FBI for real.
--The moral of "Unsafe" with Chloe spouting about teenage sexual activity loses credibility with this scandal, since Mack alongside her mentor Keith Raniere created a sex cult.
--A Season 4 episode revealed Chloe's greatest fear is that she will end up going insane. Her actress absolutely did in real life.

 
It's incredible that anyone could convince another person into willing slavery and branding. Cults suck.

She has forever ruined Smallville. It was a great show until you learn that she was indoctrinated into a cult. Now it's a total turn off.
 
She has forever ruined Smallville.
It also majorly hurt the broader DC Extended Universe...from the Tropes' Smallville page,
Role-Ending Misdemeanor: While the show was well over before Allison Mack's controversy came out, it effectively killed attempts to work the character of Chloe into the greater Superman mythos.
 
It also majorly hurt the broader DC Extended Universe...from the Tropes' Smallville page,

Yes, and if they keep putting on predators such as her and Ezra Miller, they're going to end up turning it into the Sex Offender DC Universe.
 
Yes, and if they keep putting on predators such as her and Ezra Miller, they're going to end up turning it into the Sex Offender DC Universe.
Difference btwn her and Miller is that Miller did all of their skeezy shit of their own accord, Mack did most of her shit as part of NXIVM. She also turned state's evidence and testified against Raniere, which is why she was only sentenced to three years in federal prison (she was released a little over 2 weeks ago).

In essence, she copped up to what she did, Miller didn't. That said, it'll be a cold day in hell before we likely see either of them in Hollywood ever again.
 
Difference btwn her and Miller is that Miller did all of their skeezy shit of their own accord, Mack did most of her shit as part of NXIVM. She also turned state's evidence and testified against Raniere, which is why she was only sentenced to three years in federal prison (she was released a little over 2 weeks ago).
In essence, she copped up to what she did,

Because she was facing 17 to 20 years in prison. She took a plea deal to get out from under it and got 3 years instead.
 
She took a plea deal to get out from under it and got 3 years instead.
Wasn't even three years in total (remind me to explain Federal Sentencing Guidelines sometime).
 
She got her sentence commuted? 😯
No, the way the Federal Sentencing Guidelines work w/regards to federal law is this...

(1) After someone is sentenced to prison time in the federal system, they get 54 days taken off for each year they're sentenced; in Ms. Mack's case, that was 162 days or about 5 and a half months. So from 36 months she's now down to 30-31 months.
(2) Now, once her sentence begins, so long as she didn't break any rules or get into trouble inside prison, Ms. Mack is eligible to participate in various prison programs which can reduce her sentence several more months (the most notable of these is a residential drug-addiction program - RDAP - that federal inmates are eligible more; that can knock as much as twelve months off of a sentence).
(3) There's also the judge's decisions on sentencing; unlike most states, federal judges (with some exceptions involving mandatory sentencing) decide how long someone spends behind bars and usually the BoP (Bureau of Prisons) will listen and follow the judge's recommendations on sentencing (they don't have to, but they usually do).

Now, Ms. Mack was sentenced to 3 years prison and 3 years supervised probation. Her sentence began on 30 Sept. 2021 and ended 3 July 2023, so she basically did 21 months inside. She still has the 3 years probation to serve but normally the BoP mirrors probation time in short-sentenced individuals like her to prison time so basically, unless she does anything wrong while on probation, she should be free altogether by around March 2025 or 21 months thereabouts.

That said, Wessel, she's still a crap-ton of civil lawsuits to face from other NXIVM victims and since they can't go Rainere, they'll go after her instead.; on top of that, she has to finish paying whatever fines and court costs she racked up prior to going inside.
 
Not gonna lie, as soon as this story dropped, the first thing that came to mind was "Oh Chloe, is this what getting curved by Clark has done to you?"

And then the bit about Kreuk (sp?) dropped and I was like, well, shit.

But it seems like everyone in Hollywood becomes part of a cult at some point in their lives.. or is already in one..

I am not a conspiracy theorist in the least.. however certain patterns are hard to ignore..
 
"Oh Chloe, is this what getting curved by Clark has done to you?"
 
See? That is what you get for drinking anything while reading my posts..

Have you learned nothing from your tenure over at Talk Nexus? LOL
*deadpans* Apparently not!
 

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