This Conservative State is Making a Move to Ban Shariah Law

[seasidemike]

http://conservativetribune.com/state-to-ban-shariah-law/

I am not sure on how reliable the source is, but if it is true I hope more places do the same. The sooner we can force this cotangent back into the dark ages the better for everyone.

 

[+paradox]

this is stupid yet humorist at the same time...

next thing you know people are wanting to ban the ten commandments...

 

[DrLeftover]

this is stupid yet humorist at the same time...

next thing you know people are wanting to ban the ten commandments...

too late old friend:

http://civilrights.uslegal.com/establishment-of-religion-clause/religious-displays-on-governmental-property/ten-commandments/

 

[Webster]

this is stupid yet humorist at the same time...

next thing you know people are wanting to ban the ten commandments...

No kidding..it is, put simply, a solution looking for a non-existent problem.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

http://conservativetribune.com/state-to-ban-shariah-law/

I am not sure on how reliable the source is, but if it is true I hope more places do the same. The sooner we can force this cotangent back into the dark ages the better for everyone.

Fantastic!

 

[Webster]

If I had a dime for every "OMG, Sharia law is going to take over America" piece of crap floating around the interwebs, I'd be a lot more well-off financially than I am at present.

Quoting the Anti-Defamation League's view on the MYTH of Sharia Law.....

The threat of the infiltration of Sharia, or Islamic law, into the American court system is one of the more pernicious conspiracy theories to gain traction in our country in recent years. The notion that Islam is insidiously making inroads in the United States through the application of religious law is seeping into the mainstream, with even some presidential candidates voicing fears about the supposed threat of Sharia to our way of life and as many as 13 states considering or having already passed bills that would prohibit the application of Sharia law.

Louisiana and Tennessee were among the first to approve such measures. The bills were based on model legislation issued by the American Public Policy Alliance, an unabashedly anti-Muslim advocacy group that defends the legislation as seeking to "protect American citizens' constitutional rights against the infiltration and incursion of foreign laws and foreign legal doctrines, especially Islamic Sharia Law."

When the legislation was introduced in the Tennessee state Senate in early 2010, the bill defined Sharia as a "legal political military doctrine and system adhered to, or minimally advocated by, tens of millions of not hundreds of millions of its followers around the world." In defense of the bill, state Sen. Bill Ketron said it "deals solely with a single part of Sharia that is strictly political in nature," and "in no way inserts itself into the religious laws of Islam."

The language was nearly identical to that of similar bills considered in other states, some of which were thinly disguised in terms of protecting against "the application of foreign law."

All of this anti-Sharia activity has come despite the complete absence of evidence of the unconstitutional application of foreign or religious law in our judicial system. It has also come with a great deal of political handwringing -- and myth making -- about the threat of Sharia overtaking this country. This has led, in turn, to a false perception among a growing number of Americans that Sharia is a very real threat to our way of life and constitutional freedoms.

In fact, these legislative efforts are the proverbial solution in search of a problem. The separation of church and state embodied in U.S. and state constitutions prohibits our courts from applying or considering religious law in any way that would constitute government advancement of or entanglement with religious law.

But the anti-Sharia bills are more than a matter of unnecessary public policy. These measures are, at their core, predicated on prejudice and ignorance. They constitute a form of camouflaged bigotry that enables their proponents to advance an idea that finds fault with the Muslim faith and paints all Muslim Americans as foreigners and anti-American crusaders.

It is true that Sharia is being used elsewhere around the world in dangerous ways. While Sharia law can address many daily public and private concerns, it is nonetheless subject to radical interpretation by individuals or groups who subscribe to a more puritanical form of Islamic jurisprudence. Some individuals try to interpret Sharia law for their own radical agendas. It raises more serious concerns when it comes to implementing Sharia law in its entirety, as can be seen with the examples of Iran, Saudi Arabia and the Taliban. But that certainly doesn't apply to America, where concerns about a "creeping Sharia law" are the stuff of pure paranoia.

If the hysteria over Sharia law continues to percolate through our political and social discourse, there is bound to be unintended consequences.

As we approach the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, in an uncertain economy with millions of Americans still out of work, we also face the prospect of a political season in which more political candidates may be tempted to invoke this mythological threat in an effort to pander to bigotry and fear, and to score political points.

We stand at a crossroads in American society. We have the option of heading down a path toward a greater tolerance of anti-Muslim xenophobia and fear of the "stranger in our midst," or we can rededicate ourselves to the ideal of an America that is open and welcoming to immigrants as well as minority groups who have been here for decades. Let us hope that the better nature of America will enable us to proceed down the second path and reject those who seek to divide us for political gain, or those who wish to stereotype and scapegoat an entire people because of their religious faith.

We should never diminish the very real threat of terrorism motivated by Islamist fundamentalism coming again to our shores. But as responsible, free-thinking Americans we must be careful to distinguish between the true threats to our freedoms, and identifying their sources, and those who loudly declaim against phantom threats that don't really exist.(Anti-Defamation League)

What next, y'all....we gonna' bring back loyalty oaths?

 

[identityissues8]

Webster, every western nation has had the #CreepingSharia fear mongering.
It doesn't take much to notice the pattern in the people who take it seriously's intelligence.

 

[DrLeftover]

My obvious lack of intelligence notwithstanding....

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/09/25/anjem-choudary-arrested-london-anti-terrorism-raid_n_5880094.html

There are small enclaves who wish to observe Sharia within their own community, in most cases, Dearborn, Phoenix, and so on, and London as in the story above, in most cases, it never gets past the discussion phase because of the conflict between civil law and the religious law.

Or their spokesman gets arrested for promoting violent jihad.


But, as I'm evidently an idiot, go on about your business.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

My obvious lack of intelligence notwithstanding....

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/09/25/anjem-choudary-arrested-london-anti-terrorism-raid_n_5880094.html

There are small enclaves who wish to observe Sharia within their own community, in most cases, Dearborn, Phoenix, and so on, and London as in the story above, in most cases, it never gets past the discussion phase because of the conflict between civil law and the religious law.

Or their spokesman gets arrested for promoting violent jihad.


But, as I'm evidently an idiot, go on about your business.

Bell Britain and Eurpe are already being taken over with sharia. Americans have good reason to be scared.

 

[+paradox]

okay, to the people that are scared of this imaginary threat of a religious law to be legal in the courts here and cops enforcing such non-american "laws" will ever be noticed?

 

[identityissues8]

My obvious lack of intelligence notwithstanding....

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/09/25/anjem-choudary-arrested-london-anti-terrorism-raid_n_5880094.html

There are small enclaves who wish to observe Sharia within their own community, in most cases, Dearborn, Phoenix, and so on, and London as in the story above, in most cases, it never gets past the discussion phase because of the conflict between civil law and the religious law.

Or their spokesman gets arrested for promoting violent jihad.


But, as I'm evidently an idiot, go on about your business.

Anyone take find an image of a fringe minority and try to demonise a whole group with it - even if they are misguided and absolutely ignoring scripture.

This goes to both this post, and those of yours in the thread about the father stoning his daughter...Oh, and the ignorant comments you've made about ISIS (in relation to Islam - in several threads.)

Doc, (and TRUELIBERTY and seasidemike) meet Christianity (by your logic, not mine.)

 

[seasidemike]

I am not arguing in relation to Christianity or any other religion.

History is full of atrocities carried out in the name of region, name a religion and it most likely has a history of murder and blood on it's hands.

But open your eyes, people can hardly stand up and claim Islam to be a religion of peace when the world is full of violence and murder (in horrific ways) in the name of that religion.

Of course there are good people of all religions that deplore violence just as there are non religious people who deplore violence. But just look around the world and try to tell me that Islam is a religion of peace.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

My obvious lack of intelligence notwithstanding....

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/09/25/anjem-choudary-arrested-london-anti-terrorism-raid_n_5880094.html

There are small enclaves who wish to observe Sharia within their own community, in most cases, Dearborn, Phoenix, and so on, and London as in the story above, in most cases, it never gets past the discussion phase because of the conflict between civil law and the religious law.

Or their spokesman gets arrested for promoting violent jihad.


But, as I'm evidently an idiot, go on about your business.

Anyone take find an image of a fringe minority and try to demonise a whole group with it - even if they are misguided and absolutely ignoring scripture.

This goes to both this post, and those of yours in the thread about the father stoning his daughter...Oh, and the ignorant comments you've made about ISIS (in relation to Islam - in several threads.)

Doc, (and TRUELIBERTY and seasidemike) meet Christianity (by your logic, not mine.)

You might have a point if that was todays America. Other religions have the ability to change and become peaceful just not Islam. And I am a atheist so I have no game in the fight for Christians. When I see the middle east give equal rights to women then my view will change about that religion. And again if Sharia is not bad please explain these stats no Muslim who SUPPORTS sharia will answer.

 

[+paradox]

and show me stats on how many people were killed by the us military in the past ten years?

and the us is trying to support peace and non-violence...

both are wrong...

 

[identityissues8]

@TRUELIBERTY/seasidemike; My point was you're basing your argument on a fringe minority of Muslims. Which is an error in relation to ANY group.

And that's even ignoring that Muslims =/= Islam.
Islam alone = Islam.

Just like Christians are the worst representatives of Christianity, Atheists of other Atheists and Jews are of Judaism, Muslims are the worst representatives Islam could have as we are human beings. Driven by the same [evils] as all others, worldly goods, political motives etc.

This is true for all groups, and equally so.

Disrespect Muslims all you want, have reservations about Muslims as a group all you want. It's probably in some cases valid (though, in most you've posted it's not.)
Though, when it comes to Islam (The Qur'an and the Sunnah) how lacking your knowledge is, and how heavy your ignorance is, is painfully obvious.

 

[+paradox]

cross burning and murdering of african-americans are still alive today in america by racists... the only reason why it's not as common anymore is because of the increase in laws and law enforcement not because the racists simply just changed...

 

[seasidemike]

@TRUELIBERTY/seasidemike; My point was you're basing your argument on a fringe minority of Muslims. Which is an error in relation to ANY group.

Disrespect Muslims all you want, have reservations about Muslims as a group all you want. It's probably in some cases valid (though, in most you've posted it's not.)
Though, when it comes to Islam (The Qur'an and the Sunnah) how lacking your knowledge is, and how heavy your ignorance is, is painfully obvious.

You know what?? I am not going to offend you any further.

You are right, I don't know Islam, I am only angered by what I see all over the place what is done in the name of Islam. I hate seeing woman treated like property, beaten and refused freedoms and equality, and I don't like the way Islamic groups are trying to change our culture by introducing Shari Law into western countries that fought for freedoms and liberties. I believe in separation of religion and state.

But that does not make me an expert on Islam, so I will revert from giving my personal perceptions. There is another post which talks about facts and perception, and it is true that in the case of this topic I am only influenced by perception.

I know many people who are Muslim, and although I do not agree with their religion, I do like them all as the individuals that they are. So I will do my best to not offend you any further with general comments.

Peace

 

[+paradox]

what about what happens in the name of freedom? more people die in the name of freedom than in the name of islam, if i'm correct... i don't like seeing or hearing about women treated like property, beaten, refused freedoms and equality as well, but it happens here in the united states too... the only difference is it's against the law here to beat women but it still happens everyday... you don't like other people/groups trying to change american culture yet america is trying to change everyone else's culture around the world...

 

[seasidemike]

what about what happens in the name of freedom? more people die in the name of freedom than in the name of islam, if i'm correct... i don't like seeing or hearing about women treated like property, beaten, refused freedoms and equality as well, but it happens here in the united states too... the only difference is it's against the law here to beat women but it still happens everyday... you don't like other people/groups trying to change american culture yet america is trying to change everyone else's culture around the world...

'The only difference'???
That is a massive difference..
Where the rights of women are protected under the law, the oppression of women is enshrined in Islam.
Yes many people do die in the name if freedom, but usually either fighting for it or being kept from it, and often the oppression keeping people from their freedom is religious based.

 

[+paradox]

so, it's better to kill the oppressed than let them live?

people being oppressed is not my main concern in the world, i care more about innocent people being slaughtered...

both usa/ally forces and "terrorist groups" are in the wrong...