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Walmart To Stop Selling Confederate Merchandise

I do not deny racism still exists. All races have racists. What is absolute bunk is that it is some wide spread problem keeping people down in this country. The only thing slowing down success in this country is our own government. Racism is racism no matter what minority you may be or not be. And yet one of the smallest minority's from the Asian countries are the most successful in this country. And yet They don't whine and cry about some phantom on how society keeps them down but instead makes a success of themselves.

That is where you're severely wrong and I pity you.
 
Lincoln recognized that from the very beginning and that is exactly why he did not retaliate against the south after the war but offered a hand of forgiveness.
That's one of the few areas where I wish the U.S. had treated the South in the same manner as we treated Germany after World War II: as an occupied territory, to be kept under until every scrap & trace of the Confederacy was dragged kicking-and-screaming into the wastebin of history. In a perfect world, there would've been a de-Confederatization of the likes done to the Germans (in the form of de-Nazification), etc.,etc...
 
That's one of the few areas where I wish the U.S. had treated the South in the same manner as we treated Germany after World War II: as an occupied territory, to be kept under until every scrap & trace of the Confederacy was dragged kicking-and-screaming into the wastebin of history. In a perfect world, there would've been a de-Confederatization of the likes done to the Germans (in the form of de-Nazification), etc.,etc...

Would have created growing hatred and Gorilla Warfare.
 
That is where you're severely wrong and I pity you.

Not in the least. Americans are so stupid on so many things but racism ain't one of them for the overwhelming majority.
 
Would have created growing hatred and Gorilla Warfare.
*deadpans* Hey, if that's the price America would've had to have paid to deal with it, then so be it.
 
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I'm sorry but I'm about to preach and teach!! If you want to fight a cause, understand what you are fighting. First and foremost the Confederate Flag was never a national flag representing the South, it was a battle flag flown by several armies in Virginia. Even if it had been a national flag for the South, understand that the Civil War wasn't just over slavery, while it was the reason slavery ended, it was merely an excuse for the war. The North fought the war over money (the same reason we fight half the wars these days and excuse it by saying we're fighting for another cause. Plain and simple. When the South started Secession, Lincoln was asked, "Why not let the South go in peace?" To which he replied, "I can't let them go. Who would pay for the government?" Sensing total financial ruin for the North, Lincoln waged war on the South. The South fought the War to repel Northern aggression and invasion, because, and yes this is a true stereotype, us southerners don't like to be told what to do! Lol. The Confederate Battle Flag today finds itself in the center of much controversy. The cry to take this flag down is unjustified. It is very important to keep in mind that the Confederate Battle Flag was simply just that. A battle flag. It was never even a National flag, so how could it have flown over a slave nation or represented slavery or racism? This myth is continued by lack of education and ignorance. Those that villify the Confederate Battle Flag are very confused about history and have jumped upon a bandwagon with loose wheels. To touch on another subject, many say that it's a symbol of hate because it was flown over slave ships, and that's false but guess what was? The American flag. Many also say it was the KKKs flag... Google KKK.... You will see them flying the American flag more so than the Confederate Flag.The US flag flew over a slave nation for over 85 years! I'm not saying this to down the American Flag because I love it just the same. I'm simply saying that, if the Confederate Flag should be removed, why not the American Flag?? The North tolerated slavery and acknowledged it as a Division Of Labor. The North made a vast fortune on slavery and it's commodities. It wasn't until the South decided to leave the Union that the North objected. The North knew it could not survive without the Southern money.... And did you know? At the time the War of 1861 -1865 officially commenced, the Southern States were actually in the process of freeing all slaves in the South. Russia had freed it's servants in 1859, and the South took great note of this. Had military intervention not been forced upon the South, a very different America would have been realized then as well as now.

Racism is being projected onto the Confederate Flag, which is in return, continuing the division among us. Just because one racist lunatic supported the confederate flag, doesn't mean every person who supports it is a racist.

The rebel flag to me means home. Southern pride. Wheat fields, sunflower fields, deer hunting, hard work, trucks, racing, family, and pride in where I'm from. Born and raised here and damn proud of it. Ignorance "flies" both ways. An item can not be racist, unless you are an easily offended person, or racist yourself.


The "rebel flag" we see today is the Army of Tennessee battle flag. NOT the Confederate States of America flag (which Collintouched on). The flag we know today as "Stars and Bars" is not that -- it was a completely different flag, that held a completely different purpose. Now, with that being said - a flags point is to show ownership and representation of land or militia, such as these flags. The North had their own, along with each Army (which was by state then) had their own. The Army of Tennessee (rebel flag) would wave with their calvary as they entered battle.

And can we STOP calling it the "Rebel Flag" because the Rebel Army, and the Confederate Army were two different groups that fought for two different "causes".

Half the South wanted to free slaves, and the other didn't. War was eminent.

The fact is, the flag has been, undoubtedly, used as a "mascot" (if you will) for racial wars. Duh. BUT it's a flag. A mere representation of a group -- a club.

Flags, no matter the content, should not offend anyone. And if that's the case, burn them all because each country that flies a flag, no matter the colors or political background, has done something somewhere in History to hurt, kill, or offend thousands.

This flag was, once a symbol of a strong Army fighting for the rights of its people - but over the years so many ignorant, uneducated people have turned it into a symbol of race. It's sad really.

And whom ever said "this flag is the reason a horrible crime was committed" is a f*cking idiot. First it was video games and rock music -- now a flag?!

Flags don't kill people.



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okay so the kkk are flying the american flag too, lets ban it... lets start banning all flags... that'll solve the racism...

wow, humans are getting dumber and dumber...
 
and @Webster, buddy, ya know i love ya but what's with this treason stuff you speak of? :|

the states have a right to succeed from the union per the united states constitution...

now, you wouldn't be against the constitution, wouldn't you? :whistle:
 

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