what would you do?

[TommyTooter]

the press is making a big deal about the rockets fired by hamas that kill nobody and cause little damage. israel's biggest expense from them is the cost of anxiety medication for freaked out squatters.

on the flip side, as jon stewart so aptly put, israel is much 'bombbetter' at it. if you were on the receiving end of an israeli assault, how would you respond?

 

[Nebulous's iconNebulous]

I suppose I would be dead if I was bombed.

 

[Crusader]

I suppose I would be dead if I was bombed.

 

[TommyTooter]

I suppose I would be dead if I was bombed.

they are pretty good at it. let's suppose you were one of the survivors of an attack?

 

[Nebulous's iconNebulous]

I suppose I would be dead if I was bombed.

they are pretty good at it. let's suppose you were one of the survivors of an attack?

Be pissed off, eventually move on and try to rebuild my life.

 

[TommyTooter]

moving on could be a real problem if israel didn't want your kind in their territory.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

I would try and get the people to have a uprising to stop the terrorists living among them that's the sole cause for their misery and poor standard of living.

 

[Nebulous's iconNebulous]

moving on could be a real problem if israel didn't want your kind in their territory.

Then I'd leave. Plenty of other places to live in the world.

 

[Kirito]

The press is also making a big deal about israels bombings, at least here.

As for the question... Assuming I'd be living in Gaza, move to Belgium, political refugees get to stay quite easily here.

If it were Antwerp that's bombed... well that'd be silly considering our large jewish community lol.

 

[TommyTooter]

I would try and get the people to have a uprising to stop the terrorists living among them that's the sole cause for their misery and poor standard of living.

you suck too much mainstream press and have no idea how the palestinian people feel about the 'terrorists' who are by no means their 'sole cause for their misery and poor standard of living" the zionists have turned gaza into the world's largest open air prison. there are bodies laying in the streets in north gaza right now and israel has declined a three hour cease fire to clear the wounded and dead and is intensely shelling as i'm typing this. those people were given the two day warning you claimed, but they have nowhere to go. the only way out is by sea and the israelis have that blockaded.

terrorism is most often defined as military operations against civilian targets.

USA today just reported that at least 425 people are dead and over 3000 wounded, but israel is only claiming 70 combatants KIA. the rest are civilians and there is confirmation that the israelis are using banned DIME munitions and some kind of poison gas. the kill ratio has been badly skewed ever since the haifa massacre in about 1928 and many more civilians than combatants are alway's killed.

that's terrorism. can you even cite how much damage is actually being caused by these rockets or do you only parrot jingoistic junk from right wing media outlets?

this is fact: israel's biggest cost from the 'terrorists raining rockets' on 'civilian targets' is in treating freaked out squatters for anxiety. most of them land in open spaces and cause very little damage when they explode. the cases don't even disintegrate and they can't punch through a roof. israeli ordinance flattens apartment buildings.

 

[Kirito]

I would try and get the people to have a uprising to stop the terrorists living among them that's the sole cause for their misery and poor standard of living.

you suck too much mainstream press and have no idea how the palestinian people feel about the 'terrorists' who are by no means their 'sole cause for their misery and poor standard of living" the zionists have turned gaza into the world's largest open air prison. there are bodies laying in the streets in north gaza right now and israel has declined a three hour cease fire to clear the wounded and dead and is intensely shelling as i'm typing this. those people were given the two day warning you claimed, but they have nowhere to go. the only way out is by sea and the israelis have that blockaded.

terrorism is most often defined as military operations against civilian targets.

USA today just reported that at least 425 people are dead and over 3000 wounded, but israel is only claiming 70 combatants KIA. the rest are civilians and there is confirmation that the israelis are using banned DIME munitions and some kind of poison gas. the kill ratio has been badly skewed ever since the haifa massacre in about 1928 and many more civilians than combatants are alway's killed.

that's terrorism. can you even cite how much damage is actually being caused by these rockets or do you only parrot jingoistic junk from right wing media outlets?

this is fact: israel's biggest cost from the 'terrorists raining rockets' on 'civilian targets' is in treating freaked out squatters for anxiety. most of them land in open spaces and cause very little damage when they explode. the cases don't even disintegrate and they can't punch through a roof. israeli ordinance flattens apartment buildings.

What exactly would you have israel do when hamas doesn't respect any cease-fire and doesn't want to negotiate though? You're pointing a lot of fingers at them, and I agree that the situation is tragic, but it's HAMAS shooting at them from high population areas using civilians as meatshields. You know this is also fact. Now try to formulate a response that isn't filled with just finger pointing and hate for israel, we can follow the media and don't need a history lesson.

 

[DrLeftover]

What exactly would you have israel do when hamas doesn't respect any cease-fire and doesn't want to negotiate though? You're pointing a lot of fingers at them, and I agree that the situation is tragic, but it's HAMAS shooting at them from high population areas using civilians as meatshields. You know this is also fact. Now try to formulate a response that isn't filled with just finger pointing and hate for israel, we can follow the media and don't need a history lesson.

I'm sorry Kirito, you've missed the point of the thread.

You are supposed to answer with nothing short of "bomb the scumwad Jews into the stone age and claim the land for my own". That is all the original poster wants to hear, they will spew venom all all over anything else. That's all they've got.

You will notice that they also neglect to mention that when the Palestinians mention "Black September" the phrase doesn't have much to do with Israel at all, but was when, in the early Seventies, their own brother Arabs in Jordan (and Syria as well when you come down to it) threw them out of that country for doing, pretty much, what they have been doing ever since where they're at in Lebanon, the West Bank, and Gaza: Causing Chaos.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

I would try and get the people to have a uprising to stop the terrorists living among them that's the sole cause for their misery and poor standard of living.

you suck too much mainstream press and have no idea how the palestinian people feel about the 'terrorists' who are by no means their 'sole cause for their misery and poor standard of living" the zionists have turned gaza into the world's largest open air prison. there are bodies laying in the streets in north gaza right now and israel has declined a three hour cease fire to clear the wounded and dead and is intensely shelling as i'm typing this. those people were given the two day warning you claimed, but they have nowhere to go. the only way out is by sea and the israelis have that blockaded.

terrorism is most often defined as military operations against civilian targets.

USA today just reported that at least 425 people are dead and over 3000 wounded, but israel is only claiming 70 combatants KIA. the rest are civilians and there is confirmation that the israelis are using banned DIME munitions and some kind of poison gas. the kill ratio has been badly skewed ever since the haifa massacre in about 1928 and many more civilians than combatants are alway's killed.

that's terrorism. can you even cite how much damage is actually being caused by these rockets or do you only parrot jingoistic junk from right wing media outlets?

this is fact: israel's biggest cost from the 'terrorists raining rockets' on 'civilian targets' is in treating freaked out squatters for anxiety. most of them land in open spaces and cause very little damage when they explode. the cases don't even disintegrate and they can't punch through a roof. israeli ordinance flattens apartment buildings.

What exactly would you have israel do when hamas doesn't respect any cease-fire and doesn't want to negotiate though? You're pointing a lot of fingers at them, and I agree that the situation is tragic, but it's HAMAS shooting at them from high population areas using civilians as meatshields. You know this is also fact. Now try to formulate a response that isn't filled with just finger pointing and hate for israel, we can follow the media and don't need a history lesson.

They do not expect anything less then Israel gone from there current homes or all Jews dead. Israel has to understand this but yet they still defend themselves in a softball manner. any other nation would have finished this war long ago.

 

[Kirito]

They do not expect anything less then Israel gone from there current homes or all Jews dead. Israel has to understand this but yet they still defend themselves in a softball manner. any other nation would have finished this war long ago.

I guess, I'm just wondering what his vision is on a solution. If it's as unrealistic as that there's really no reason to keep reading these topics.

 

[Kirito]

What exactly would you have israel do when hamas doesn't respect any cease-fire and doesn't want to negotiate though? You're pointing a lot of fingers at them, and I agree that the situation is tragic, but it's HAMAS shooting at them from high population areas using civilians as meatshields. You know this is also fact. Now try to formulate a response that isn't filled with just finger pointing and hate for israel, we can follow the media and don't need a history lesson.

I'm sorry Kirito, you've missed the point of the thread.

You are supposed to answer with nothing short of "bomb the scumwad Jews into the stone age and claim the land for my own". That is all the original poster wants to hear, they will spew venom all all over anything else. That's all they've got.

You will notice that they also neglect to mention that when the Palestinians mention "Black September" the phrase doesn't have much to do with Israel at all, but was when, in the early Seventies, their own brother Arabs in Jordan (and Syria as well when you come down to it) threw them out of that country for doing, pretty much, what they have been doing ever since where they're at in Lebanon, the West Bank, and Gaza: Causing Chaos.

Oh damn, I must've gotten lost on my way to the debate room then...

 

[TommyTooter]

I would try and get the people to have a uprising to stop the terrorists living among them that's the sole cause for their misery and poor standard of living.

you suck too much mainstream press and have no idea how the palestinian people feel about the 'terrorists' who are by no means their 'sole cause for their misery and poor standard of living" the zionists have turned gaza into the world's largest open air prison. there are bodies laying in the streets in north gaza right now and israel has declined a three hour cease fire to clear the wounded and dead and is intensely shelling as i'm typing this. those people were given the two day warning you claimed, but they have nowhere to go. the only way out is by sea and the israelis have that blockaded.

terrorism is most often defined as military operations against civilian targets.

USA today just reported that at least 425 people are dead and over 3000 wounded, but israel is only claiming 70 combatants KIA. the rest are civilians and there is confirmation that the israelis are using banned DIME munitions and some kind of poison gas. the kill ratio has been badly skewed ever since the haifa massacre in about 1928 and many more civilians than combatants are alway's killed.

that's terrorism. can you even cite how much damage is actually being caused by these rockets or do you only parrot jingoistic junk from right wing media outlets?

this is fact: israel's biggest cost from the 'terrorists raining rockets' on 'civilian targets' is in treating freaked out squatters for anxiety. most of them land in open spaces and cause very little damage when they explode. the cases don't even disintegrate and they can't punch through a roof. israeli ordinance flattens apartment buildings.

What exactly would you have israel do when hamas doesn't respect any cease-fire and doesn't want to negotiate though? You're pointing a lot of fingers at them, and I agree that the situation is tragic, but it's HAMAS shooting at them from high population areas using civilians as meatshields. You know this is also fact. Now try to formulate a response that isn't filled with just finger pointing and hate for israel, we can follow the media and don't need a history lesson.

i think you do need a history lesson because i very firmly believe, as a faithful hebrew israelite, that the zionist state of israel is the most hideous fraud ever perpetrated by the imperialist banker gangsters and has ZERO legitimacy as either a jewish state or a democracy. please read my opinions on the subject in a thread further down the stack

 

[TommyTooter]

What exactly would you have israel do when hamas doesn't respect any cease-fire and doesn't want to negotiate though? You're pointing a lot of fingers at them, and I agree that the situation is tragic, but it's HAMAS shooting at them from high population areas using civilians as meatshields. You know this is also fact. Now try to formulate a response that isn't filled with just finger pointing and hate for israel, we can follow the media and don't need a history lesson.

I'm sorry Kirito, you've missed the point of the thread.

You are supposed to answer with nothing short of "bomb the scumwad Jews into the stone age and claim the land for my own". That is all the original poster wants to hear, they will spew venom all all over anything else. That's all they've got.

You will notice that they also neglect to mention that when the Palestinians mention "Black September" the phrase doesn't have much to do with Israel at all, but was when, in the early Seventies, their own brother Arabs in Jordan (and Syria as well when you come down to it) threw them out of that country for doing, pretty much, what they have been doing ever since where they're at in Lebanon, the West Bank, and Gaza: Causing Chaos.

i am a scumwad jew, you arrogant prig. i have been attempting to give reasoned arguments against zionism from the true jewish perspective only to get disrespected by misinformed tools of imperialism.

 

[TommyTooter]

They do not expect anything less then Israel gone from there current homes or all Jews dead. Israel has to understand this but yet they still defend themselves in a softball manner. any other nation would have finished this war long ago.

I guess, I'm just wondering what his vision is on a solution. If it's as unrealistic as that there's really no reason to keep reading these topics.

are you wondering about my solution? if so, please refer to me as a female.

i want to make one thing very clear: zionism is not judaism and the chauvinistic militant nationalism is anathema to the hebrew faith. i am very deeply concerned for the rights of the indigenous palestinian jews and the diasporan jews who emigrated in good faith and have been good neighbors to the palestinians.

my proposal is to suspend all three governments under UN supervision, trying numerous parties on both sides for war crimes and reunifying palestine as a constitutional republic with at least four states: israel (under the 1948 borders) , gaza, judea and samaria. let the muslims run gaza, the jews run israel and the christians have there way in judea and samaria.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

They do not expect anything less then Israel gone from there current homes or all Jews dead. Israel has to understand this but yet they still defend themselves in a softball manner. any other nation would have finished this war long ago.

I guess, I'm just wondering what his vision is on a solution. If it's as unrealistic as that there's really no reason to keep reading these topics.

I think you got your answer on a solution. No peace just get out on some bogus claim they dont belong there or they can all die.

 

[TommyTooter]

They do not expect anything less then Israel gone from there current homes or all Jews dead. Israel has to understand this but yet they still defend themselves in a softball manner. any other nation would have finished this war long ago.

I guess, I'm just wondering what his vision is on a solution. If it's as unrealistic as that there's really no reason to keep reading these topics.

I think you got your answer on a solution. No peace just get out on some bogus claim they dont belong there or they can all die.

i think you need to learn how to read, dude. your conclusion about my proposal is completely in error and calling my premises a bogus claim with no refutation of my assertions is irrational and bogus.