what would you do?

[TommyTooter]

arguing with propaganda videos and a bunch of cut and paste from a history book? what a dolt. dude look at the history you cut against the same period in europe. the closer people lived to the temple mount, the more intermingled their cultures were until the supremacist europeans came along and upset the balance. you completely left out the ottoman period which is mainly what i was referring to.

try this one on for size. it's much more honest, straightforward and unsullied by the statist nonsense in that drek you posted.

https://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Ffeature%3Dplayer_embedded%26v%3Dy0yy-pzoFg0&h=vAQHj8QdK

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Cool cartoons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0oCctiYhHVw

 

[DrLeftover]

26 Jul 2014

Hamas militants are attempting to negotiate a new arms deal with North Korea for missiles and communications equipment that will allow them to maintain their offensive against Israel, according to Western security sources.

Security officials say the deal between Hamas and North Korea is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars and is being handled by a Lebanese-based trading company with close ties to the militant Palestinian organisation based in east Beirut.

Hamas officials are believed to have already made an initial cash down payment to secure the deal, and are now hoping that North Korea will soon begin shipping extra supplies of weapons to Gaza.

“Hamas is looking for ways to replenish its stocks of missiles because of the large numbers it has fired at Israel in recent weeks,” explained a security official. “North Korea is an obvious place to seek supplies because Pyongyang already has close ties with a number of militant Islamist groups in the Middle East.”

Using intermediaries based in Lebanon, Hamas officials are said to be intensifying their efforts to sign a new agreement with Pyongyang to provide hundreds of missiles together with communications equipment that will improve the ability of Hamas fighters to coordinate operations against Israeli forces.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/palestinianauthority/10992921/Hamas-and-North-Korea-in-secret-arms-deal.html

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

26 Jul 2014

Hamas militants are attempting to negotiate a new arms deal with North Korea for missiles and communications equipment that will allow them to maintain their offensive against Israel, according to Western security sources.

Security officials say the deal between Hamas and North Korea is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars and is being handled by a Lebanese-based trading company with close ties to the militant Palestinian organisation based in east Beirut.

Hamas officials are believed to have already made an initial cash down payment to secure the deal, and are now hoping that North Korea will soon begin shipping extra supplies of weapons to Gaza.

“Hamas is looking for ways to replenish its stocks of missiles because of the large numbers it has fired at Israel in recent weeks,” explained a security official. “North Korea is an obvious place to seek supplies because Pyongyang already has close ties with a number of militant Islamist groups in the Middle East.”

Using intermediaries based in Lebanon, Hamas officials are said to be intensifying their efforts to sign a new agreement with Pyongyang to provide hundreds of missiles together with communications equipment that will improve the ability of Hamas fighters to coordinate operations against Israeli forces.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/palestinianauthority/10992921/Hamas-and-North-Korea-in-secret-arms-deal.html

From the look of all the rockets I would say they are old pals again.

Hamas and Iran rebuild ties three years after falling out over Syria.


A rapprochement between Hamas and Tehran is under way almost three years after a breach over the Palestinian party's refusal to back the Syrian government in the civil war, and amid its current political isolation following the demise of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.

The rebuilding of the relationship is likely to dismay Israel and the US, which had welcomed the weakened ties between Gaza's rulers and their powerful political, financial and military sponsors.

"Relations between us are now almost back to how they were before [the crisis over Syria]. We believe we will soon be back at that point," said Taher al-Nounou, an aide to Gaza's prime minister, Ismail Haniyeh. Contacts between high-ranking officials from both sides had resumed, he said.

Khaled Meshaal, the head of Hamas's political bureau, based in Qatar, has met Iranian representatives in Ankara and Doha in recent months, and may visit Tehran in the coming months.

According to Nounou, a delegation of Hamas officials based outside Gaza visited Tehran two months ago. Hamas leaders inside Gaza have been unable to leave the blockaded coastal strip since the military coup in Egypt last July.

Another senior Hamas official, Bassem Naim, confirmed the renewed contacts between his organisation and Tehran. "Ties had never been conclusively severed, but recently there have been a number of meetings that brought new blood back into our relationship with Iran," he said.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/09/hamas-iran-rebuild-ties-falling-out-syria

 

[DrLeftover]

Perhaps they are trying to rebuild the "Axis of Evil".

 

[TommyTooter]

26 Jul 2014

Hamas militants are attempting to negotiate a new arms deal with North Korea for missiles and communications equipment that will allow them to maintain their offensive against Israel, according to Western security sources.

Security officials say the deal between Hamas and North Korea is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars and is being handled by a Lebanese-based trading company with close ties to the militant Palestinian organisation based in east Beirut.

Hamas officials are believed to have already made an initial cash down payment to secure the deal, and are now hoping that North Korea will soon begin shipping extra supplies of weapons to Gaza.

“Hamas is looking for ways to replenish its stocks of missiles because of the large numbers it has fired at Israel in recent weeks,” explained a security official. “North Korea is an obvious place to seek supplies because Pyongyang already has close ties with a number of militant Islamist groups in the Middle East.”

Using intermediaries based in Lebanon, Hamas officials are said to be intensifying their efforts to sign a new agreement with Pyongyang to provide hundreds of missiles together with communications equipment that will improve the ability of Hamas fighters to coordinate operations against Israeli forces.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/palestinianauthority/10992921/Hamas-and-North-Korea-in-secret-arms-deal.html

this is an intellectually dishonest post without a comment. it's also joke. how much do you think they're going to get for 'hundreds of thousands of dollars' ?

also, don't fall into the trap of thinking that because i'm anti-zionist, i'm pro-hamas because that simply isn't the case. i'm opposed to violence and bullshit propaganda whereever it comes from, especially conservatards like glenn beck posted by an intellectually dishonest and incompetent conservatard like who posted the glenn beck video. how about a little rush limbaugh to support your irrational arguments, fellas?

 

[DrLeftover]

I will not joke with you. Nor will I tolerate your baiting me into an argument.

"Dishonest"? that would be the pot calling the kettle......


They get "hundreds of thousands of dollars" from their supporters both in the West and in the Middle East.

And you damned well know it.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

You asked for it so I shall provide. Real common sense and logic from Rush. Come on admit it you love Rush. Admit it!

Everything in the Israeli-Hamas Conflict is Ass Backwards!
July 25, 2014


BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: All right. The Israelis have rejected the ceasefire proposal made by the haughty John Kerry, who served in Vietnam. The Israelis reject ceasefire deal. The only thing a ceasefire does is allow Hamas to regroup. I think Hamas is on the ropes and that's why everybody wants a ceasefire. I'm telling you, everything over there is ass backwards. Everything in this conflict is 180 degrees out of phase. They want the ceasefire to give Hamas time to regroup.

"Well, we have to make it fair, Mr. Limbaugh, because the Israelis have such an unfair advantage. They're richer and they're farther advanced than the poor Palestinians and the Hamasians. Well, the Hamasians don't have anything at all, Mr. Limbaugh, it's just totally unfair." Well, that's just tough toenails, as far as I'm concerned. Thank God for for Bibi Netanyahu.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Okay. As I mentioned a half hour ago, the AP is now reporting that the Israeli security cabinet unanimously rejected Obama and Kerry's truce plan for Gaza, the ceasefire. Unilaterally, unanimously rejected it because they know that a ceasefire is only an opportunity for Hamas to rebuild.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Now, back to the Israeli-Hamas situation, 'cause this is good. Last night on CNN's Erin Burnett OutFront she interested the Israeli ambassador to the UN, Ron Dermer. Now, there's been all these arguments, all of this pressure on Israel, because they're just not fair. They're not telling Hamas early enough that they're gonna bomb 'em. When have you ever heard in a war that the person bombing you gives you 20 minutes lead time to get out of the way? Never, right?

Well, the Israelis are doing this. They're sending in little warning bombs that don't do any damage. They go off, and when that happens you're supposed to vacate the building 'cause an attack's coming in like five minutes.

Do remember that time when you were in school and you ended up in the janitor's office and you found all those surface-to-air missiles hidden in there? Remember that time? Yeah, right, because there wasn't. Well, they found missiles in schools in the Gaza Strip. And we played the sound bites on this yesterday. They gave the missiles back to the police in Gaza, which is Hamas.

READ THE REST HERE. http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/07/25/everything_in_the_israeli_hamas_conflict_is_ass_backwards

 

[DrLeftover]

Limbaugh is a blowhard. And, I cannot listen to his show when he's on it, only when he has a pinch hitter at the mic.

But. Occasionally. Every once in awhile. He has a good idea.

Unfortunately, then he talks his good idea absolutely to death.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Limbaugh is a blowhard. And, I cannot listen to his show when he's on it, only when he has a pinch hitter at the mic.

But. Occasionally. Every once in awhile. He has a good idea.

Unfortunately, then he talks his good idea absolutely to death.

I really, really like the guy. The more people try to dismiss him the more I know he is the guy to listen to and proudly say it. As with any talk show host or person I do not agree with everything he says. But his over all fundamental beliefs are mine.

 

[TommyTooter]

I will not joke with you. Nor will I tolerate your baiting me into an argument.

"Dishonest"? that would be the pot calling the kettle......


They get "hundreds of thousands of dollars" from their supporters both in the West and in the Middle East.

And you damned well know it.

yes you are an arrogant, intellectually dishonest man and i won't tolerate you derailing my threads with insults and off topic trash.

that wasn't the question i asked. just how much weaponry do you think this hundreds of thousands of dollars is going to buy? let me answer that for you : BUPKIS!

the united states is GIVING israel 30 million dollars every day of US taxpayer money. how do you feel about supporting the genocide in gaza while our infrastructure crumbles?

 

[TommyTooter]

You asked for it so I shall provide. Real common sense and logic from Rush. Come on admit it you love Rush. Admit it!

Everything in the Israeli-Hamas Conflict is Ass Backwards!
July 25, 2014


BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: All right. The Israelis have rejected the ceasefire proposal made by the haughty John Kerry, who served in Vietnam. The Israelis reject ceasefire deal. The only thing a ceasefire does is allow Hamas to regroup. I think Hamas is on the ropes and that's why everybody wants a ceasefire. I'm telling you, everything over there is ass backwards. Everything in this conflict is 180 degrees out of phase. They want the ceasefire to give Hamas time to regroup.

"Well, we have to make it fair, Mr. Limbaugh, because the Israelis have such an unfair advantage. They're richer and they're farther advanced than the poor Palestinians and the Hamasians. Well, the Hamasians don't have anything at all, Mr. Limbaugh, it's just totally unfair." Well, that's just tough toenails, as far as I'm concerned. Thank God for for Bibi Netanyahu.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Okay. As I mentioned a half hour ago, the AP is now reporting that the Israeli security cabinet unanimously rejected Obama and Kerry's truce plan for Gaza, the ceasefire. Unilaterally, unanimously rejected it because they know that a ceasefire is only an opportunity for Hamas to rebuild.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Now, back to the Israeli-Hamas situation, 'cause this is good. Last night on CNN's Erin Burnett OutFront she interested the Israeli ambassador to the UN, Ron Dermer. Now, there's been all these arguments, all of this pressure on Israel, because they're just not fair. They're not telling Hamas early enough that they're gonna bomb 'em. When have you ever heard in a war that the person bombing you gives you 20 minutes lead time to get out of the way? Never, right?

Well, the Israelis are doing this. They're sending in little warning bombs that don't do any damage. They go off, and when that happens you're supposed to vacate the building 'cause an attack's coming in like five minutes.

Do remember that time when you were in school and you ended up in the janitor's office and you found all those surface-to-air missiles hidden in there? Remember that time? Yeah, right, because there wasn't. Well, they found missiles in schools in the Gaza Strip. And we played the sound bites on this yesterday. They gave the missiles back to the police in Gaza, which is Hamas.

READ THE REST HERE. http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/07/25/everything_in_the_israeli_hamas_conflict_is_ass_backwards

i don't consume any MSM and completely ignore the pundits. while you're at giving us the conservatard viewpoint, how about some o'reilly and hannity?

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

You asked for it so I shall provide. Real common sense and logic from Rush. Come on admit it you love Rush. Admit it!

Everything in the Israeli-Hamas Conflict is Ass Backwards!
July 25, 2014


BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: All right. The Israelis have rejected the ceasefire proposal made by the haughty John Kerry, who served in Vietnam. The Israelis reject ceasefire deal. The only thing a ceasefire does is allow Hamas to regroup. I think Hamas is on the ropes and that's why everybody wants a ceasefire. I'm telling you, everything over there is ass backwards. Everything in this conflict is 180 degrees out of phase. They want the ceasefire to give Hamas time to regroup.

"Well, we have to make it fair, Mr. Limbaugh, because the Israelis have such an unfair advantage. They're richer and they're farther advanced than the poor Palestinians and the Hamasians. Well, the Hamasians don't have anything at all, Mr. Limbaugh, it's just totally unfair." Well, that's just tough toenails, as far as I'm concerned. Thank God for for Bibi Netanyahu.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Okay. As I mentioned a half hour ago, the AP is now reporting that the Israeli security cabinet unanimously rejected Obama and Kerry's truce plan for Gaza, the ceasefire. Unilaterally, unanimously rejected it because they know that a ceasefire is only an opportunity for Hamas to rebuild.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Now, back to the Israeli-Hamas situation, 'cause this is good. Last night on CNN's Erin Burnett OutFront she interested the Israeli ambassador to the UN, Ron Dermer. Now, there's been all these arguments, all of this pressure on Israel, because they're just not fair. They're not telling Hamas early enough that they're gonna bomb 'em. When have you ever heard in a war that the person bombing you gives you 20 minutes lead time to get out of the way? Never, right?

Well, the Israelis are doing this. They're sending in little warning bombs that don't do any damage. They go off, and when that happens you're supposed to vacate the building 'cause an attack's coming in like five minutes.

Do remember that time when you were in school and you ended up in the janitor's office and you found all those surface-to-air missiles hidden in there? Remember that time? Yeah, right, because there wasn't. Well, they found missiles in schools in the Gaza Strip. And we played the sound bites on this yesterday. They gave the missiles back to the police in Gaza, which is Hamas.

READ THE REST HERE. http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/07/25/everything_in_the_israeli_hamas_conflict_is_ass_backwards

i don't consume any MSM and completely ignore the pundits. while you're at giving us the conservatard viewpoint, how about some o'reilly and hannity?

Wishy Washy O'Reilly I do not care for but Hannity I even like more then Rush so I will be more then pleased to do so.

Now the American Muslim on the left he is fantastic and says some great things. The pro Palestinian guy on the right has some real trouble answers questions and is full of excuses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1m5xrlBHRs

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Hamas Leader is Pressed By Charlie Rose Until He Finally Says Israel Has To Go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nFSd7KaVhfo

 

[DrLeftover]

of course the cease fire was broken by Israel because it is ok if Hamas fires rockets

Several thousand left-wing activists gathered in Tel Aviv’s Rabin Square on Saturday evening, calling for an end to bloodshed in the Gaza Strip and a return to negotiations with the Palestinians.
...
The demonstrations were cut short when Hamas unilaterally ended a humanitarian truce with Israel and resumed rocket-fire from Gaza.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/protesters-call-for-end-to-war-in-tel-aviv/


More
With Video
http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2014/07/27/Israeli-Peace-Rally-Cut-Short-by-Hamas-Rockets

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

The son of a Hamas leader, who also happens to be one of their most outspoken critics, took to the airwaves to denounce the organization and their belief system.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KakxXN5Z-XI

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

 

[TommyTooter]

You asked for it so I shall provide. Real common sense and logic from Rush. Come on admit it you love Rush. Admit it!

Everything in the Israeli-Hamas Conflict is Ass Backwards!
July 25, 2014


BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: All right. The Israelis have rejected the ceasefire proposal made by the haughty John Kerry, who served in Vietnam. The Israelis reject ceasefire deal. The only thing a ceasefire does is allow Hamas to regroup. I think Hamas is on the ropes and that's why everybody wants a ceasefire. I'm telling you, everything over there is ass backwards. Everything in this conflict is 180 degrees out of phase. They want the ceasefire to give Hamas time to regroup.

"Well, we have to make it fair, Mr. Limbaugh, because the Israelis have such an unfair advantage. They're richer and they're farther advanced than the poor Palestinians and the Hamasians. Well, the Hamasians don't have anything at all, Mr. Limbaugh, it's just totally unfair." Well, that's just tough toenails, as far as I'm concerned. Thank God for for Bibi Netanyahu.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Okay. As I mentioned a half hour ago, the AP is now reporting that the Israeli security cabinet unanimously rejected Obama and Kerry's truce plan for Gaza, the ceasefire. Unilaterally, unanimously rejected it because they know that a ceasefire is only an opportunity for Hamas to rebuild.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Now, back to the Israeli-Hamas situation, 'cause this is good. Last night on CNN's Erin Burnett OutFront she interested the Israeli ambassador to the UN, Ron Dermer. Now, there's been all these arguments, all of this pressure on Israel, because they're just not fair. They're not telling Hamas early enough that they're gonna bomb 'em. When have you ever heard in a war that the person bombing you gives you 20 minutes lead time to get out of the way? Never, right?

Well, the Israelis are doing this. They're sending in little warning bombs that don't do any damage. They go off, and when that happens you're supposed to vacate the building 'cause an attack's coming in like five minutes.

Do remember that time when you were in school and you ended up in the janitor's office and you found all those surface-to-air missiles hidden in there? Remember that time? Yeah, right, because there wasn't. Well, they found missiles in schools in the Gaza Strip. And we played the sound bites on this yesterday. They gave the missiles back to the police in Gaza, which is Hamas.

READ THE REST HERE. http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/07/25/everything_in_the_israeli_hamas_conflict_is_ass_backwards

i don't consume any MSM and completely ignore the pundits. while you're at giving us the conservatard viewpoint, how about some o'reilly and hannity?

Wishy Washy O'Reilly I do not care for but Hannity I even like more then Rush so I will be more then pleased to do so.

Now the American Muslim on the left he is fantastic and says some great things. The pro Palestinian guy on the right has some real trouble answers questions and is full of excuses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1m5xrlBHRs

i'll need to watch that later. for some reason, opera won't play videos on this machine. the most realistic arguments against zionism and the creation of the state of israel come from the jews. after all, they're doing it in our name.

 

[TommyTooter]

that link is broken

 

[DrLeftover]

So is the UN

29 Jul 2014

The United Nations Relief & Works Agency For Palestine Refugees (UNRWA) announced Tuesday that another rocket stockpile has been found at one of its schools in Gaza. This instance marks the third time since the beginning of Operation Protective Edge that a weapons arsenal has been found at an UNRWA school in Gaza.

UNRWA has yet to place blame on any individuals or organizations for placing the weapons stockpile within a children’s school. The UN body refused to do so on the past two previous occasions as well.

The UN body, after both previous findings, has handed the rockets it had found back into the possession of “the local police," otherwise known as the terrorist group Hamas.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/07/29/THIRD-Rocket-Arsenal-Found-At-UN-School-In-Gaza