When You Die Nothing Happens

[The Jason]

Atheists believe this. Is this disturbing? Well, one atheist said "Nature Doesn't Owe US Anything", so are many people being whiny?

Myself, I mostly don't believe this, but there's always doubt in my mind

 

[MrDawn]

Atheists believe this. Is this disturbing?

Not all of us. I cannot speak for other Atheists, but I do believe in "Eternal Oblivion" upon death. I don't see it as disturbing, but rather a liberation from a life well lived.

For many atheists, "eternal oblivion", represents the cessation of consciousness and existence after death. It is a view supported by naturalism and modern neuroscience which posits that consciousness is a function of the brain. This perspective doesn't involve experiencing an afterlife but a return to the non-existence before birth, as the mind is seen as dependent on a functioning brain. Rather than an empty threat, this view can be seen as a liberation, prompting a focus on the meaning and value of the single life lived on Earth.

Eternal oblivion - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[The Jason]

I don't like eternal oblivion but it makes more sense when looking at the universe. The other option is where humans believe they are super special.

But then again, I have seen that the spirit world Christians speak of is real, so humans are special.

 

[DrLeftover]

To each their own.

I believe there is more to a person than there is to a chicken.

 

[The Jason]

I'm quite sure demons torment people and prayer shuts them off instantly, so that's sort of proof in the Bible there.

 

[Doc Nova]

I'm someone who needs hard, physical evidence. You can tell me all you want there's a heaven and hell, but if there's no proof, all you're doing is talking out of your ass. People can have blind faith all they want, but science and logic don't care about faith. Now, I will say, if my mom is right and someday jesus comes down and take all his followers away - well holy shit now I believe! But until or if that day happens, it's all made up words in a book.

 

[The Jason]

Not all can be explained with science and logic, but those things (science and logic) are good in they encourage "sane spirituality", not middle ages era burning at the stake stuff.

 

[Doc Nova]

Not all can be explained with science and logic, but those things (science and logic) are good in they encourage "sane spirituality", not middle ages era burning at the stake stuff.

If it can't be explained or proven real, it's made up hokus pokus.

 

[The Jason]

The stuff I've watched news stories about is so horrible it can't be explained by mental illness.

 

[MrDawn]

The stuff I've watched news stories about is so horrible it can't be explained by mental illness.

No one is saying that you can't believe in those things.

 

[The Jason]

There's quite good evidence people are just experiencing brain phenomenon masking a soul.

But, then again, some stuff is so weird that it gives support to some sort of spirit world operating.

If a spirit world operates, more probability to people having a soul and whatnot.

 

[DrLeftover]

Then what do we do with this?

"When I began my career as a cosmologist some twenty years ago, I was a convinced atheist. I never in my wildest dreams imagined that one day I would be writing a book purporting to show that the central claims of Judeo-Christian theology are in fact true, that these claims are straightforward deductions of the laws of physics as we now understand them. I have been forced into these conclusions by the inexorable logic of my own special branch of physics."

Frank J. Tipler

Frank J. Tipler | Tulane University School of Science and Engineering

1987 – Present: Professor, Tulane University 1992: Visiting Professor, Universität Wien 1989: Visiting Professor, Universität Bern 1988: Visiting Professor, Institut d’Astrophysique, University of Liége 1987: Visiting Fellow, University of Sussex 1981 – 1987: Associate Professor, Tulane...

sse.tulane.edu

 

[The Jason]

Then what do we do with this?

Frank J. Tipler | Tulane University School of Science and Engineering

1987 – Present: Professor, Tulane University 1992: Visiting Professor, Universität Wien 1989: Visiting Professor, Universität Bern 1988: Visiting Professor, Institut d’Astrophysique, University of Liége 1987: Visiting Fellow, University of Sussex 1981 – 1987: Associate Professor, Tulane...

sse.tulane.edu

What are some main talking points he has?

 

[DrLeftover]

What are some main talking points he has?

"talking points?"

I don't deal in "talking points".

Go read his book, then you tell me.