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Would Israel Stop If Jews Moved Into Gaza?

I don't think there are many countries present today that have not taken their geographical property from another, earlier peoples. Regardless of who deserves the land, Israel currently owns it and has a responsibility to protect its citizens, the vast majority of whom have been born after Israel was founded.

There does not seem to be much social, or political, unity between the Muslim countries surrounding Israel, other than their aggravation towards the country.

Jews would not move into Gaza, but if they did, Israel would stop...The country has a deep moral servitude to it's people, especially the soldiers: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilad_Shalit_prisoner_exchange).
 
Deezy said:
I don't think there are many countries present today that have not taken their geographical property from another, earlier peoples. Regardless of who deserves the land, Israel currently owns it and has a responsibility to protect its citizens, the vast majority of whom have been born after Israel was founded.

There does not seem to be much social, or political, unity between the Muslim countries surrounding Israel, other than their aggravation towards the country.

Jews would not move into Gaza, but if they did, Israel would stop...The country has a deep moral servitude to it's people, especially the soldiers: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilad_Shalit_prisoner_exchange).

Oh dear lord.
A great moral servitude to it's people? Sure. Well and good, so long as it's ethnically cleansing that of another at the exact same time?
Israel owns it? Yep. Tell that to the grandfather who was driven off of his farm and lost his livelihood for it, who sits back watching this country drop bombs on his grandchildren as they play on the beach (fact, this happened...In front of journalists last Summer.)
The Arab nations around it are not aggressors, some are defending the plight of the Palestinians, while others are aiding the tyranny of the Israelis.

Maybe get a clue, come back and try again?
 
identityissues8 said:
Deezy said:
I don't think there are many countries present today that have not taken their geographical property from another, earlier peoples. Regardless of who deserves the land, Israel currently owns it and has a responsibility to protect its citizens, the vast majority of whom have been born after Israel was founded.

There does not seem to be much social, or political, unity between the Muslim countries surrounding Israel, other than their aggravation towards the country.

Jews would not move into Gaza, but if they did, Israel would stop...The country has a deep moral servitude to it's people, especially the soldiers: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilad_Shalit_prisoner_exchange).

Oh dear lord.
A great moral servitude to it's people? Sure. Well and good, so long as it's ethnically cleansing that of another at the exact same time?
Israel owns it? Yep. Tell that to the grandfather who was driven off of his farm and lost his livelihood for it, who sits back watching this country drop bombs on his grandchildren as they play on the beach (fact, this happened...In front of journalists last Summer.)
The Arab nations around it are not aggressors, some are defending the plight of the Palestinians, while others are aiding the tyranny of the Israelis.

Maybe get a clue, come back and try again?

I'm talking legally...as I said, not many countries exist now that haven't taken the land they have jurisdiction over from another peoples. There are, of course, acts of aggression on both sides...such as the 3 kids from Israel that got killed recently...If Israel was as technologically primitive as HAMAS, their would be much more innocent Israeli deaths. 

"By late October 2014, the Iron Dome systems had intercepted over 1,200 rockets."
http://www.defensenews.com/article/20141027/DEFREG04/310270011/Israeli-Firm-Adapts-Iron-Dome-Intercepts-Sea
 
Deezy said:
identityissues8 said:
Deezy said:
I don't think there are many countries present today that have not taken their geographical property from another, earlier peoples. Regardless of who deserves the land, Israel currently owns it and has a responsibility to protect its citizens, the vast majority of whom have been born after Israel was founded.

There does not seem to be much social, or political, unity between the Muslim countries surrounding Israel, other than their aggravation towards the country.

Jews would not move into Gaza, but if they did, Israel would stop...The country has a deep moral servitude to it's people, especially the soldiers: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilad_Shalit_prisoner_exchange).

Oh dear lord.
A great moral servitude to it's people? Sure. Well and good, so long as it's ethnically cleansing that of another at the exact same time?
Israel owns it? Yep. Tell that to the grandfather who was driven off of his farm and lost his livelihood for it, who sits back watching this country drop bombs on his grandchildren as they play on the beach (fact, this happened...In front of journalists last Summer.)
The Arab nations around it are not aggressors, some are defending the plight of the Palestinians, while others are aiding the tyranny of the Israelis.

Maybe get a clue, come back and try again?

I'm talking legally...as I said, not many countries exist now that haven't taken the land they have jurisdiction over from another peoples. There are, of course, acts of aggression on both sides...such as the 3 kids from Israel that got killed recently...If Israel was as technologically primitive as HAMAS, their would be much more innocent Israeli deaths. 

"By late October 2014, the Iron Dome systems had intercepted over 1,200 rockets."
http://www.defensenews.com/article/20141027/DEFREG04/310270011/Israeli-Firm-Adapts-Iron-Dome-Intercepts-Sea

More Israelis die from Peanut allergies than attacks on Israel.
Whereas the people in Gaza have been under seige since 2007. Power has been cut off during winter in an overt ATTEMPT to kill INFANTS from exposure, and it worked. That's just one example.
Building supplies aren't allowed in to rebuild homes. Whereas Israel is known to target schools, hospitals, homes and again, children on the beach.

There are acts of aggression and acts of resistance. If you don't see that Hamas was formed in the 1980's as a resistance group against the Israelis brutality, then you have no idea what the 'right to resist' is! And if you do, but you see it as not applicable in this situation, you're as ignorant as TRUE LIBERTY.

This is a much different issue than imperialist land-grabs of the past, it's happening in a modern time where it has no place and people power should be able to stop it.
 
Deezy said:
I don't think there are many countries present today that have not taken their geographical property from another, earlier peoples. Regardless of who deserves the land, Israel currently owns it and has a responsibility to protect its citizens, the vast majority of whom have been born after Israel was founded.

There does not seem to be much social, or political, unity between the Muslim countries surrounding Israel, other than their aggravation towards the country.

Jews would not move into Gaza, but if they did, Israel would stop...The country has a deep moral servitude to it's people, especially the soldiers: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilad_Shalit_prisoner_exchange).

What a great post! Bravo on putting it in words so nicely.
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identityissues8 said:
Deezy said:
I don't think there are many countries present today that have not taken their geographical property from another, earlier peoples. Regardless of who deserves the land, Israel currently owns it and has a responsibility to protect its citizens, the vast majority of whom have been born after Israel was founded.

There does not seem to be much social, or political, unity between the Muslim countries surrounding Israel, other than their aggravation towards the country.

Jews would not move into Gaza, but if they did, Israel would stop...The country has a deep moral servitude to it's people, especially the soldiers: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilad_Shalit_prisoner_exchange).

Oh dear lord.
A great moral servitude to it's people? Sure. Well and good, so long as it's ethnically cleansing that of another at the exact same time?
Israel owns it? Yep. Tell that to the grandfather who was driven off of his farm and lost his livelihood for it, who sits back watching this country drop bombs on his grandchildren as they play on the beach (fact, this happened...In front of journalists last Summer.)
The Arab nations around it are not aggressors, some are defending the plight of the Palestinians, while others are aiding the tyranny of the Israelis.

Maybe get a clue, come back and try again?

And that farmer who lost his farm knew full well he would lose it if one of his family members decided to become a terrorist. And the farmer would not have lost his farm if the terrorists in Gaza would simply stop attacking. The violence would end today if the so called Palestinians kicked out the very terrorists that are causing the destruction of there lives. 
 
identityissues8 said:
The Arab nations around it are not aggressors

Talk about hyperbole...on the day of Israel's founding, most every Arab country surrounding it attacked Israel....most all of them to this day (except for Egypt) still don't recognize Israel's right-to-exist and yet Israel's the aggressor? :lol: :lol: :lol: :whatever:
 
Kirito said:
+Justice said:
Kirito said:
+Justice said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
BINGO! Just what I expected.


what?

the palestinians welcomed the jewish people into palestine only to be back-stabbed and killed by the jewish people? :|

seems about right...

The British welcomed the jewish people into Palestine after they conquered it. All the palestinians did was riot, kill them and create bad blood. They never wanted them there. I understand being anti-israel, but keep your facts straight.


yeah, okay...

well, why don't you watch this simple video that's more true than words...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-evIyrrjTTY




Reference and original, including an explanation about each character in this video: http://blog.ninapaley.com/2012/10/01/this-land-is-mine/

It tells the story of the wars in the land called Israel/Palestine/Canaan/the Levant, since the cavemen until today, all so musical and poetic.

"This Land is Mine" is a video from Nina Paley, originally posted on Vimeo.
In the end of this video appear the text "Copying is an Act of Love, please copy and share. copyheart.org". So, here it is.


LYRIC:

The Exodus Song, "This Land is Mine"
(Lyrics by Pat Boone. Sung by Andy Williams)

This land is mine
God gave this land to me

This brave and ancient land to me
And when the morning sun
Reveals her hills and plains
Then I see a land
Where children can run free.

So take my hand
And walk this land with me
And walk this lovely land with me
Tho' I am just a man

When you are by my side

With the help of God
I know I can be strong.

Tho' I am just a man

When you are by my side

With the help of God
I know I can be strong.

To make this land our home

If I must fight

I'll fight to make this land our own.
Until I die this land is mine!

A song is more true than history? lol

When you want to disregard history while continuing[img=10x10]http://cdncache-a.akamaihd.net/items/it/img/arrow-10x10.png[/img] an argument based on history it no longer makes sense. It was the British who had a mandate on Palestine and allowed the jewish to start migrating there. The arabs there at that time did NOT want them and there was killing on BOTH sides. Not that I think this is at all relevant anymore, but hey, since you keep wanting to go back a 100 years in time at least be historically correct.


i said "this simple video that's more true than words..."


the song was just extra...


i'm correct about history and before there were jewish people in palestine, there were arabs/palestinians... and at first they openly let jewish people in...


i'm just nulling and voiding some people's argument that the "jews" were there first when clearly they just stole the land from someone else like they did again multiple times in history...

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Webster said:
identityissues8 said:
The Arab nations around it are not aggressors

Talk about hyperbole...on the day of Israel's founding, most every Arab country surrounding it attacked Israel....most all of them to this day (except for Egypt) still don't recognize Israel's right-to-exist and yet Israel's the aggressor? :lol: :lol: :lol: :whatever:

only if that was the truth, which it isn't...

and just because you think that's the truth doesn't mean you're right...

israel pushed the already citizens of that land out by force and murder, other arab nations looked at that as an act of terror and an act of war with their allies... the same as you would exapect the usa to protect and fight along side israel as an ally... but to you they are in the wrong because they are on the wrong side in your eye... still doesn't make your opinions true and israel's actions justified...
 

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