Yeah fuck you, and the children you say is ok to obliterate reaching 60 million wiped off the planet since they made it legal. How about keeping it on the subject and keep the personal jabs out of it.
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Cold blooded murder of children just became a little harder
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I would say something here but given the rules concerning the 1-6 riots, I'll shut up now.
(The Guardian) What was abortion like before Roe v Wade?
In 1968, Ann Hill discovered she was pregnant while a law student. With abortion illegal, she was forced to have a backstreet operation. She explains how it inspired her to become a women’s rights campaigner.
As told to Emine Saner: Somehow, I got the name and number of one of the most well-known doctors in the area who performed abortions illegally, Nathan Rappaport. A man with a deep gravelly voice told me that it would be $500 upfront, and scheduled the procedure for a Saturday morning, so I didn’t miss any law school classes. A friend lent me the money and I went with another friend, Steve, to Rappaport’s apartment in a brownstone on New York’s Upper West Side.
It looked like a home: you first walked into a living area, where Steve had to stay, then I was taken into a room that looked like a dentist’s office, which had a chair with stirrups. I was nervous – you do not go for medical procedures at an apartment – but it was just a matter of immediacy. Get it done, and then I’ll breathe again. I was frightened about the procedure, but I knew I was doing the right thing. Fortunately, I hadn’t known beforehand that he had been imprisoned for manslaughter, after a woman whom he had given abortion to had died.
When I came round from the anaesthesia – I think he had given me ether – still groggy and trying to deal with everything, he foisted legal papers on me about his case. He knew I was a law student and wanted me to help him overturn his conviction and get his medical licence back.
I took the documents and left. I felt relief, but I was also in a lot of pain. Back in my dorm room at Yale, I was bleeding. I was worried about what would happen – was I going to bleed to death? I hadn’t given much thought to the safety of it before because I knew I was going to do it. It may have been denial on my part. But that weekend, dealing with the pain and bleeding, I worried I had been permanently mutilated or would die.
On Monday, I went back to the original doctor I had seen, and told him I’d had an abortion. He told me that he could admit me to the hospital to be “cleaned out” – that it wasn’t illegal. Fortunately, the pain and bleeding stopped after a few days; I think he gave me antibiotics, concerned about infection.
www.theguardian.com
In 1968, Ann Hill discovered she was pregnant while a law student. With abortion illegal, she was forced to have a backstreet operation. She explains how it inspired her to become a women’s rights campaigner.
As told to Emine Saner: Somehow, I got the name and number of one of the most well-known doctors in the area who performed abortions illegally, Nathan Rappaport. A man with a deep gravelly voice told me that it would be $500 upfront, and scheduled the procedure for a Saturday morning, so I didn’t miss any law school classes. A friend lent me the money and I went with another friend, Steve, to Rappaport’s apartment in a brownstone on New York’s Upper West Side.
It looked like a home: you first walked into a living area, where Steve had to stay, then I was taken into a room that looked like a dentist’s office, which had a chair with stirrups. I was nervous – you do not go for medical procedures at an apartment – but it was just a matter of immediacy. Get it done, and then I’ll breathe again. I was frightened about the procedure, but I knew I was doing the right thing. Fortunately, I hadn’t known beforehand that he had been imprisoned for manslaughter, after a woman whom he had given abortion to had died.
When I came round from the anaesthesia – I think he had given me ether – still groggy and trying to deal with everything, he foisted legal papers on me about his case. He knew I was a law student and wanted me to help him overturn his conviction and get his medical licence back.
I took the documents and left. I felt relief, but I was also in a lot of pain. Back in my dorm room at Yale, I was bleeding. I was worried about what would happen – was I going to bleed to death? I hadn’t given much thought to the safety of it before because I knew I was going to do it. It may have been denial on my part. But that weekend, dealing with the pain and bleeding, I worried I had been permanently mutilated or would die.
On Monday, I went back to the original doctor I had seen, and told him I’d had an abortion. He told me that he could admit me to the hospital to be “cleaned out” – that it wasn’t illegal. Fortunately, the pain and bleeding stopped after a few days; I think he gave me antibiotics, concerned about infection.
‘I was worried I had been permanently mutilated’: what abortion was like before Roe v Wade
In 1968, Ann Hill discovered she was pregnant while a law student. With abortion illegal, she was forced to have a backstreet operation. She explains how it inspired her to become a women’s rights campaigner
www.theguardian.com
What if an abortion is required to save a woman's life?
If it's okay I would like to hear your thoughts on ectopic pregnancies and severe birth defects. Do you think it would be okay then?
Now there's a good question; Serafin and I were bouncing that around over in another thread earlier this evening...
Thanks Webster.
Well I already mentioned rape and life threatening issues I believe on this topic or one the several others.
No, I don’t believe a defect justifies murder because then it becomes a slippery slope over time of what a justified defect is.
Well unless you a person is racist it’s going forward because it’s been genocide on the American black community.
I think he still has that view. He's just lied about his former opinion so he could get women to vote him into office. He's such a liar.
When Joe Biden Voted to Let States Overturn Roe v. Wade (Published 2019)
Mr. Biden voted for a constitutional amendment to allow individual states to overturn Roe in 1982, then later voted against it. His back-and-forth over abortion has been a hallmark of his career.
The funny part of Dobbs is that it never banned abortion; it simply sent the issue back to the states for them to decide.
Isn't that how we're supposed to do things in America most days?
Saw this over on Facebook and it reminds me that there are always exceptions to any rule....
Go on, we'll wait.
Now we can argue the politics of abortion the whole day long but I'd challenge anyone to walk up to any of the women mentioned above and tell them abortion is murder.
Go on, we'll wait.
This was already posted and discussed
Not here as far as I know....
