Do you trust the police?

[TwitchisMental]

Don't you think policing is already pretty much standardized already...?

If you mean having police is standard then yes.

If you mean all police have to follow the same set of standards eg standardization... no

You have some areas where cops go into let's say a mental health situation with an open mind and don't have their guns drawn. Where as in other areas they will kill those having a mental breakdown. Thats a far from standardization.

You have areas that require cops have college degrees in criminal justice or similar. Where as other areas just require a GED or High School Diploma and have cops that do not know the laws they are to be enforcing. That is far from standardization.

Too many people have been killed, mistreated, etc.. due to horrible officers who should not have a badge. Alot of which wouldn't have a badge to begin with if they were held to higher standards.

 

[Tuesday]

If you mean having police is standard then yes.

If you mean all police have to follow the same set of standards eg standardization... no

You have some areas where cops go into let's say a mental health situation with an open mind and don't have their guns drawn. Where as in other areas they will kill those having a mental breakdown. Thats a far from standardization.

You have areas that require cops have college degrees in criminal justice or similar. Where as other areas just require a GED or High School Diploma and have cops that do not know the laws they are to be enforcing. That is far from standardization.

Too many people have been killed, mistreated, etc.. due to horrible officers who should not have a badge. Alot of which wouldn't have a badge to begin with if they were held to higher standards.

I see that you are being positive about it all and giving them the benefit of the doubt by trying to improve them etc...but while what you propose is to keep giving them chances and opportunities to improve etc I think it'll still be a never ending process of them not improving no matter how many chances we give them...that why I'm for not giving them any more chances and go in totally different direction altogether...

 

[Sinistra]

I work in a convenience store so I have to make a good relationship with the police. A few of them are my friends that I do spend time with outside of work. Do I trust the police as a whole? no, but I am not going to dislike the police just because there are some bad apples in the bunch. Yes, I do think they could be more demilitarized and not have high-powered rifles and think that they are above the law.

 

[Tuesday]

I work in a convenience store so I have to make a good relationship with the police. A few of them are my friends that I do spend time with outside of work. Do I trust the police as a whole? no, but I am not going to dislike the police just because there are some bad apples in the bunch. Yes, I do think they could be more demilitarized and not have high-powered rifles and think that they are above the law.

They are human beings too afterall but they do work in deep rooted toxic pig cultured industries...

 

[MrDawn]

They are human beings too afterall but they do work in deep rooted toxic pig cultured industries...

I'm fine with the cops who care. Like the ones who are empathetic and aren't a hard ass. I feel like the cops where I live care too much about speeding tickets and harass law abiding citizens. Things need to change.

 

[Coo]

The title speaks for itself? Do you trust the police? Why or why not? What circumstances would change your answer?

I don't trust them at all. I've been in multiple circumstances where i needed their help and got none. The one that finally solidified my thoughts on local police was the day i had a weapon pulled on me and the only help i got when i called was, " Would you like us to do a drive by?" I was flabbergasted. Nothing like being a small woman with a man holding a weapon at you and you're only line of defence is the cop shop saying they can do a driveby. Like no mfers, i want you to arrest this person and save me! Cops in my town are a waste of tax payers money and we've even seen them working with the criminals such as drug deals. It's awful here in my shitty town.

 

[~ True Legend ~]

Senior Met officer Julian Bennett sacked for refusing drug test

Cdr Julian Bennett is found guilty of gross misconduct for breaching the force's standards.

www.bbc.co.uk

A senior Met Police officer who drew up the force's anti-drugs strategy has been sacked for refusing to provide a urine sample for cannabis testing.

He opted to resign with immediate effect instead of agreeing to the drug test. This was refused and he was instead dismissed. Oh good luck to his appeal on the gross misconduct, lol

 

[Tuesday]

Senior Met officer Julian Bennett sacked for refusing drug test

Cdr Julian Bennett is found guilty of gross misconduct for breaching the force's standards.

www.bbc.co.uk

He opted to resign with immediate effect instead of agreeing to the drug test. This was refused and he was instead dismissed. Oh good luck to his appeal on the gross misconduct, lol

That's how it is with pig culture the pigs only want to police others not be policed themselves😄

 

[Uncrowned]

Most police officers, an overwhelming majority, are dedicated public servants committed to upholding the law and ensuring community safety. However, the reality is that even a small number of incidents involving police misconduct can significantly impact public trust. It's important, as @Mendalla mentioned, to have robust oversight mechanisms that ensure accountability and transparency.

The issue of police militarization often raises concerns, but it's driven by practical budget considerations. Equipment from military surplus programs can be cost-effective for departments facing financial constraints. This, however, does not fully address the broader community's perceptions and fears. Similarly, while it's seldom a point of contention when other emergency services utilize such resources, the historical and visual impact of police using military equipment cannot be overlooked.

Reduced budgets and restricted access to training resources are additional challenges that may hinder the effectiveness of law enforcement. Adequate training is essential, especially when officers must make split-second decisions under stress. Undertrained personnel are a liability not only to public safety but to themselves as well.

It's clear that reform is necessary, focusing on external oversight, recruitment, training, and community relations. These reforms must be considered carefully, recognizing the complexity of law enforcement work, which can include traumatic experiences and high-stress situations not typically encountered in other professions.

Acknowledging the daily realities and sacrifices of police work is crucial, just as it is to ensure that the necessary changes are made to improve policing practices and community relations. By working together, it's possible to support law enforcement while also advocating for the kind of reform that benefits everyone involved. Thankfully, most people bashing police have not had to put dead babies into bags and haven't had guns pulled on them. Most careers don't even have memorials on their walls on how many of their friends died while working and even more thankfully, most people don't even think about if they don't get to come home today while eating breakfast.

 

[Phillip]

I have never trusted police anywhere I go to.

 

[koop2]

Not anymore

 

[riseabovethis]

They're more trustworthy than shysters and politicians

 

[~ True Legend ~]

Most police officers, an overwhelming majority, are dedicated public servants committed to upholding the law and ensuring community safety. However, the reality is that even a small number of incidents involving police misconduct can significantly impact public trust. It's important, as @Mendalla mentioned, to have robust oversight mechanisms that ensure accountability and transparency.

The issue of police militarization often raises concerns, but it's driven by practical budget considerations. Equipment from military surplus programs can be cost-effective for departments facing financial constraints. This, however, does not fully address the broader community's perceptions and fears. Similarly, while it's seldom a point of contention when other emergency services utilize such resources, the historical and visual impact of police using military equipment cannot be overlooked.

Reduced budgets and restricted access to training resources are additional challenges that may hinder the effectiveness of law enforcement. Adequate training is essential, especially when officers must make split-second decisions under stress. Undertrained personnel are a liability not only to public safety but to themselves as well.

It's clear that reform is necessary, focusing on external oversight, recruitment, training, and community relations. These reforms must be considered carefully, recognizing the complexity of law enforcement work, which can include traumatic experiences and high-stress situations not typically encountered in other professions.

Acknowledging the daily realities and sacrifices of police work is crucial, just as it is to ensure that the necessary changes are made to improve policing practices and community relations. By working together, it's possible to support law enforcement while also advocating for the kind of reform that benefits everyone involved. Thankfully, most people bashing police have not had to put dead babies into bags and haven't had guns pulled on them. Most careers don't even have memorials on their walls on how many of their friends died while working and even more thankfully, most people don't even think about if they don't get to come home today while eating breakfast.

Many of the human species are quick to pass blame with low levels of empathy towards others in cases where they haven’t been in that same situation

 

[Raidarr]

Not inherently but not in the same way as an earlier response.

They are only people and as such are fallible. Always cover your ass. Don't trust them to handle things perfectly and know your rights, but there's no reason to aggravate them unnecessarily. Hold them to account however you can.

But that's a broad principle, the truth is things can be much better or far worse depending where you are so know the reputation of the PD in your given area as it will get you far in how on guard you need to be, or, how much you can 'trust' them to not be dicks. I'm generally not worried in my immediate neighborhood, it's quiet enough and they aren't known for power trips here. I have some cause for concern in surrounding areas: some are known traps that are patrolled completely differently, and then, more so reliably at the beginning of the month. The entire region is nothing like the nearest large city where I'd have good cause to watch my back. Cross state lines and I will find a city with a famous legacy of corruption. YMMV.

 

[DrLeftover]

Who would you trust more to "do the right thing" in a given situation without witnesses or TV cameras present:

A Police Officer -or- A Congressman

 

[Tuesday]

Most police officers, an overwhelming majority, are dedicated public servants committed to upholding the law and ensuring community safety. However, the reality is that even a small number of incidents involving police misconduct can significantly impact public trust. It's important, as @Mendalla mentioned, to have robust oversight mechanisms that ensure accountability and transparency.

The issue of police militarization often raises concerns, but it's driven by practical budget considerations. Equipment from military surplus programs can be cost-effective for departments facing financial constraints. This, however, does not fully address the broader community's perceptions and fears. Similarly, while it's seldom a point of contention when other emergency services utilize such resources, the historical and visual impact of police using military equipment cannot be overlooked.

Reduced budgets and restricted access to training resources are additional challenges that may hinder the effectiveness of law enforcement. Adequate training is essential, especially when officers must make split-second decisions under stress. Undertrained personnel are a liability not only to public safety but to themselves as well.

It's clear that reform is necessary, focusing on external oversight, recruitment, training, and community relations. These reforms must be considered carefully, recognizing the complexity of law enforcement work, which can include traumatic experiences and high-stress situations not typically encountered in other professions.

Acknowledging the daily realities and sacrifices of police work is crucial, just as it is to ensure that the necessary changes are made to improve policing practices and community relations. By working together, it's possible to support law enforcement while also advocating for the kind of reform that benefits everyone involved. Thankfully, most people bashing police have not had to put dead babies into bags and haven't had guns pulled on them. Most careers don't even have memorials on their walls on how many of their friends died while working and even more thankfully, most people don't even think about if they don't get to come home today while eating breakfast.

Most people who don't trust police have run out of patience for these kind of apologetic excuses the police have ever since they police were created...I for one am now ready to try anything else than what we have in place now and I'm not willing to waste any more time and money funding the police...we can change political parties why can't we charge policing for anything else? The excuse of only the police know what it's like to bury babies and loved ones is unreasonable why are only the police supporters humanized but not the non police supporters...? That's exactly the kind of pig culture prejudice and discrimination that assumes only the police can understand the hardships of loss etc...well the rest of us the don't support police culture know what it's like to bury babies etc and know first hand the police can't bring them back to life and that the police aren't the saviors of humanity that they want us all to blindly believe in...

Who would you trust more to "do the right thing" in a given situation without witnesses or TV cameras present:

A Police Officer -or- A Congressman

Neither they are the same...both parasites that feed of your tax dollars...

They're more trustworthy than shysters and politicians

No they are the same as politicians and shysters they all live of your tax dollars...

Many of the human species are quick to pass blame with low levels of empathy towards others in cases where they haven’t been in that same situation

That's exactly the description of the governments and police they are quick to blame everyone else but themselves...

 

[brad.smith]

For me it depends on situation and i don't mean just my personal situations with them although i did get pulled over for speeding 89 in a 70 by HWY Patrol and i was respectful to him and my reason i gave him for speeding was "Not paying attention" which in a small sector it was a tad bit of a lie as i was driving Dodge Ram 5.7 V8 Hemi that i bought few weeks ago. So moral of the story i got off with a written warning notice.

Aside from that I have worked with them due to the nature of my job and having to deal with them semi regular basis and knowing what they are put through as @Uncrowned stated " With the lack of training and resources and funding" Lacks for the tools and training needed to handle situations. So a lot of them have to make the best judgement call. However I am not defending them in anyway but more of look at the system as a whole and if you chose to work in that environment, Due to lack of funding to be able to do your job, you need the proper tools to do your job and when that gets cut police is usually one of the most areas that gets cut the most.

Same sense of if a state/country has a gun law banning guns to defend yourself if someone "Criminal" tries to rob your house and you happen to be home if you have nothing to defend yourself if that intruder has a firearm (Because Criminals don't follow laws) you have to use whats within your reach to handle the situation. Because they arent going to wait 15-20 mins for the police to show up.

With the Police situation same situation they have to do/use whats available to them including the training they do have or lack there of.

Same sense of does that make you a bad parent if your kid is bad? Doesn't always mean that and theirs a bad cop in every bunch no matter training, tools etc cant stop that and handle the ones that are thinking they are above the law and not public servants as they also work for the people.

 

[DrLeftover]

No they are the same as politicians and shysters they all live of your tax dollars...

Fine.

Then explain the fine upstanding citizens that caused this:

A father and his daughter were mysteriously gunned down in 2001. Now, answers finally come

Jahon Smith was charged with two counts of murder and four counts of attempted murder in the 2001 shooting deaths of Stephen Murphy and his 2-year-old daughter, Kali, in Compton.

www.aol.com

 

[~ True Legend ~]

Cheshire Police employee who tipped off criminal friend is jailed

Natalie Mottram told a criminal friend how police had infiltrated the EncroChat messaging platform.

www.bbc.co.uk

What if police are lowkey assisting criminals?

 

[Tuesday]

Cheshire Police employee who tipped off criminal friend is jailed

Natalie Mottram told a criminal friend how police had infiltrated the EncroChat messaging platform.

www.bbc.co.uk

What if police are lowkey assisting criminals?

There's many more cases of police assisting criminals and not in a low key way either more like partners in crime way...

Fine.

Then explain the fine upstanding citizens that caused this:

A father and his daughter were mysteriously gunned down in 2001. Now, answers finally come

Jahon Smith was charged with two counts of murder and four counts of attempted murder in the 2001 shooting deaths of Stephen Murphy and his 2-year-old daughter, Kali, in Compton.

www.aol.com

What's so fine and upstanding about anyone in that article...? Or if you're just being sarcastic I don't see anything significant in that article that requires explaining...