Full body scanner @ Airports

[Nebulous's iconNebulous]

How do you feel about those new airport full body scanners that allow any security person to see you naked in order to check for weapons?



.....and invasive pat-downs for those who opt out.





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UqM56e-kRA

 

[Corleone]

Doesn't bother me. I'd rather have someone look over my naked body than my dead body if another 9/11 happened due to too light security.

 

[Nebulous's iconNebulous]

A bladder cancer survivor from Michigan says the head of the Transportation Security Administration called to apologize for a rough airport pat-down that caused a bag of the traveler's urine to soak his clothes.

Shameful..



Its 2010, they need to figure out a better way to do security checks without having to violate people, humiliate them or expose them to radiation (the scanner).

 

[Corleone]

Shameful..



Its 2010, they need to figure out a better way to do security checks without having to violate people, humiliate them or expose them to radiation (the scanner).

I understand where you're coming from, because there are instances where people are violated and/or humiliated due to improper security checks, but without proper pat-downs and/or without a scanner, how do you perform an effective security check that prevents potential risks or threats? It's unfortunate honest, hard working people have to suffer from intense security procedures, but that's the result from insane idiots in 2010 that ruin it for the rest of us. Because one person will, and has, tried to bomb a plane, we all have to be searched to ensure we don't try to bomb the plane. One person can ruin it for all, because without that one person who initially caused the problem, there would be no need for security checks to ensure it doesn't happen again. After 9/11, I say increase airport security, and it has been increased, probably to the point where it's too much, but when you still have idiots out there trying to hijack and bomb planes, I really don't want security to be lowered so they can be successful in their vile operations.

 

[Nebulous's iconNebulous]

They can require that people get naked before entering the airport, have all orifices checked before getting on the plane then make them ride the plane naked until they reach their destination, but that wont stop people from getting around it.



They can send packages with bombs disguised as something else. The airlines can crack down harder on that and they will find some other way... Who knows, maybe they are developing an explosive that is undetectable by current technology. You cant stop the inevitable.



Its good to take precautions but they are crossing the line with their current security measures.

 

[spitzveldmuis_w]

How do you feel about those new airport full body scanners that allow any security person to see you naked in order to check for weapons?



.....and invasive pat-downs for those who opt out.





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UqM56e-kRA

As a wise man once said: Those who give up freedom for security deserve neither.

 

[Cranos]

That's so creepy and really won't do any good because it isn't implemented in other countries. All they have to do now is take an international plane towards the US... >_> (not that I'd want it to be implemented anywhere as it is a massive invasion of privacy).

 

[Corleone]

Riding naked on a plane for security purposes is ridiculous, but pat-downs and body scanners are not. Benjamin Franklin's quote is misused in the above post in my opinion. As citizens, we're not giving up our rights to live in a free and secure nation by going through security checks. Without security, we would have no freedom. I highly doubt Benjamin Frankin was referring to airport body scanners to prevent terrorists as giving up our freedom. The only freedom that is being lost is the freedom for terrorist to cause destruction in this great nation. It's a simple and basic process. We're in 2010, you walk into the scanner, then you're on your way if you pass inspection. If necessary, they'll pat you down if a red flag is raised. Once you're passed security, you're on your way to a safe flight. If you feel you were violated in any way shape or form, contact airport officials. Improper pat-downs happen, but they serve a great purpose if properly performed.

 

[Evil Eye]

That's highly disturbing

 

[The Dragon Master]

If they don't pat you down, then how are they supposed to find weapons that the metal scanner doesn't? Like carbon fibre knives?



I'm not to sure about the full body scanner... I would have to read more about it.



They do need to come up with more ways to detect danger, the terrorists are getting smarter and so should we.

 

[spitzveldmuis_w]

Riding naked on a plane for security purposes is ridiculous, but pat-downs and body scanners are not. Benjamin Franklin's quote is misused in the above post in my opinion. As citizens, we're not giving up our rights to live in a free and secure nation by going through security checks. Without security, we would have no freedom. I highly doubt Benjamin Frankin was referring to airport body scanners to prevent terrorists as giving up our freedom. The only freedom that is being lost is the freedom for terrorist to cause destruction in this great nation. It's a simple and basic process. We're in 2010, you walk into the scanner, then you're on your way if you pass inspection. If necessary, they'll pat you down if a red flag is raised. Once you're passed security, you're on your way to a safe flight. If you feel you were violated in any way shape or form, contact airport officials. Improper pat-downs happen, but they serve a great purpose if properly performed.

You would be giving up your constitutional right for privacy (We have it over here anyway not sure how it is in the USA). And it still won't really work unless it is enforced in all other countries that have flights to the USA.

 

[Nebulous's iconNebulous]

If they don't pat you down, then how are they supposed to find weapons that the metal scanner doesn't?

They've always done pat downs, but now they've stepped it up and are basically molesting you.

 

[DrLeftover]

There is only one reason the scanners are in use....



Congress Got Paid

L-3 Communications, which has sold $39.7 million worth of the machines to the federal government, spent $4.3 million trying to influence Congress and federal agencies during the first nine months of this year, up from $2.1 million in 2005, lobbying data compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics show. Its lobbyists include Linda Daschle, a former Federal Aviation Administration official.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2010-11-22-scanner-lobby_N.htm

 

[Jazzy]

Let me ask anyone who has posted in here if they have had a full body scan or an invasive pat down. Are you just assuming and agreeing with things that you either are reading or have seen on TV? Let's hear from a person who actually went through either that I have mentioned.

 

[Corleone]

So Jughead, when the authorities want to pat you down and strip search you before they will allow you into a store, a library, a mall or any other public place, how will you feel about it then?

A library with books vs. an airplane capable of being used as an extremely deadly weapon. Apples to oranges. How would you feel if your airplane was hijacked and ran into a building? Or.. How would you feel if a loved one was on that airplane that was hijacked, perhaps on 9/11? It could of been prevented if today's security measures were in place. Here's a wise quote to remember:

It's what you learn after you know it all that counts. - Harry S. Truman



We KNOW terrorists want to bomb and hijack airplanes because it has happened. 9/11 is a prime example where tougher security measure could of and probably would of prevented over 2,000 deaths. Learn from history, otherwise, it will be repeated. Without intense pat-downs, scanners, or detectors, I honestly don't see how you can stop terrorists. It's fine for all of you that are against all these extreme security procedures, but you're not considering the lives lost due to terroristic acts on airplanes, or how much safer you and others are with these security checks. Perhaps you don't want to be patted down, but I do want you to be patted down, because I don't know if you're a terrorist. Sounds ridiculous calling you, or anyone for that matter, a terrorist, but I doubt anyone would of got onto the planes on 9/11 if they knew terrorists were on board, except for the fact they didn't know these people were terrorists because they appeared as average individuals. Say they're unnecessary, but 9/11 proves otherwise. Just last December we had an attempted bombing, so becoming even more lenient towards airport security makes no sense when terrorists organizations are actively plotting to get back at the U.S.

 

[Corleone]

Let me ask anyone who has posted in here if they have had a full body scan or an invasive pat down. Are you just assuming and agreeing with things that you either are reading or have seen on TV? Let's hear from a person who actually went through either that I have mentioned.

I've never been through airport security or flown before, but I have been to places and events were I was patted down. It's uncomfortable, but I wouldn't say it's invasive. If you want to get into an event, expect to be patted down. If you want to fly, expect to be patted down. Is it truly invading your privacy if you have the choice? If you don't want to go to the event or don't want to fly due to the security pat downs, then don't. Just because it makes you uncomfortable doesn't mean it should be omitted where it jeopardize others' security, including your own.

 

[The Dragon Master]

Let me ask anyone who has posted in here if they have had a full body scan or an invasive pat down. Are you just assuming and agreeing with things that you either are reading or have seen on TV? Let's hear from a person who actually went through either that I have mentioned.

I've been pat down at an airport, several times. Due to the fact that every time I go on holiday there seems to be a terrorist scare

It's not that bad, well in England their not. They pat down your arms, legs and torso. And females are pat down by females etc. I haven't been through a full body scanner.

 

[awpoon]

It's really unfortunate that they had to come down to this, but really, it's a necessary evil that we have to deal with for the safety of our passengers.

 

[Nebulous's iconNebulous]

It's really unfortunate that they had to come down to this, but really, it's a necessary evil that we have to deal with for the safety of our passengers.

Its unnecessary at this point because every single airport in the world is not using them.

 

[Cinnamon]

They are 100% ILLEGAL. They don't have the authority to put their hands on me and I wouldn't tolerate it if I did fly, (which I don't.)

I read today that they are considering allowing Muslim women to pat themselves down!!!! Why don't we just hang a big fucking sign on The Statue of Liberty that reads, We cater to terrorists??? What the HELL is that all about?

100% agree. The most vile form of government intrusion to date. If someone groped you like that on the street, it would be a felony! But the gov't gets a free pass. Socialism. What's next? TSA gynecologists and proctologists?



I'd like to know why they aren't using the dogs who can smell/detect even the most minute trace of bombs and drugs.