General Wrestling Discussion Thread

[Webster]

Nice to see Plumber Mozley and his garbage back again.....

 

[FallandPray]

Recent rumors suggest Shane McMahon could be eyeing an AEW debut. To add fuel to those rumors, controversial former WWE and WCW writer Vince Russo now appears, who spoke to Sportskeeda Wrestlebinge and said that he believes there is an outside possibility that Vince McMahon will secretly collaborate with Shane McMahon to potentially take over AEW.

Russo said he believes the possible AEW acquisition would take place with Shane at the forefront, as it looks clean to the public, while Vince McMahon could be operating behind the scenes without anyone knowing.

"We saw this with WCW, it happened before." AEW purchase might be under Shane's costume, that's all I'm saying. Shane is as clean as a whistle. Vince could be behind without anyone knowing, brother," Russo said.

 

[Webster]

Recent rumors suggest Shane McMahon could be eyeing an AEW debut. To add fuel to those rumors, controversial former WWE and WCW writer Vince Russo now appears, who spoke to Sportskeeda Wrestlebinge and said that he believes there is an outside possibility that Vince McMahon will secretly collaborate with Shane McMahon to potentially take over AEW.

Russo said he believes the possible AEW acquisition would take place with Shane at the forefront, as it looks clean to the public, while Vince McMahon could be operating behind the scenes without anyone knowing.

"We saw this with WCW, it happened before." AEW purchase might be under Shane's costume, that's all I'm saying. Shane is as clean as a whistle. Vince could be behind without anyone knowing, brother," Russo said.

Vince Russo, is, as usual, full of shit.

For starters, Vince McMahon is currently toxic in the wrestling world; even if he somehow gets out from under Janel Grant's lawsuit (and the pending federal investigation into his actions) no wrestling promotion will touch him for fear of sponsor/commercial backlash. Secondly, for Russo to bring up WCW given his role in their demise is rich as hell for him to do; Russo is just as toxic as VKM is.

In addition, unlike WCW, AEW has two wild cards - Tony Khan and his father Shad Khan. Shad might not like the money he's lighting on fire for his son, but there's no way in hell he's letting VKM anywhere near his son's sandbox. Shane hasn't been relevant in terms of wrestling ownership in ages (that role squarely belongs to Stephanie McMahon) and I don't see any scenario at present that would allow for Russo's thoughts to become reality and furthermore, WWE's at a point in its life where they don't need to purchase other wrestling promotions; they may be the biggest promotion in wrestling but even they (especially in the post-VKM era) recognize how bad it would be for them to do to AEW what Vince Jr. did to WCW back in 2001.

 

[Webster]

*deadpans* Remember wrestling fans, Tony Khan would rather have Marko Stunt Dwarf Dong Sucker and Jack Perry Jungle Jackoff in his promotion than wrestlers like CM Punk, Jade Cargill, Stephanie Vaquer and who knows who else.... #AEWIsAParody

 

[Webster]

Yeah, Jon Moxley will not be getting Christmas cards from Jim Cornette.....

 

[Webster]

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[FallandPray]

WWE recently started Trademarking lots of old WCW PPVs prompting speculation of a new era on Netflix. During his podcast, Jeff Jarrett shared his thoughts on the idea of WWE potentially reviving the WCW brand on Netflix:

“Reviving WCW on Netflix? As much as I would hope and want, and I could get emotionally invested in WCW on Netflix, the reality is that we are 23 years removed from the brand being on television. The nWo still sells a boatload of merchandise, but WCW hasn’t sold, to my knowledge, much of anything. A couple of retro shirts here and there, something to that effect. I don’t see a tremendous value there, but with that being said, you own the IP, you own the library, and you have the ability to have multiple connective tissues, whether real relatives, and you have a throwback of a lineage that truly exists. There is a run of 83 weeks, you have all that kind of stuff.

So could it work? With a focused effort? I think you could hit it out of the park, but I don’t think you need to rest on the laurels of the WCW that we knew in the 90s. It would have to be established and stories told and a real focus, and I’m not sure they would do that. But the short answer is yes, it could be done. I think it could be incredibly successful if it happened.”

 

[Webster]

“Reviving WCW on Netflix? As much as I would hope and want, and I could get emotionally invested in WCW on Netflix, the reality is that we are 23 years removed from the brand being on television. The nWo still sells a boatload of merchandise, but WCW hasn’t sold, to my knowledge, much of anything. A couple of retro shirts here and there, something to that effect. I don’t see a tremendous value there, but with that being said, you own the IP, you own the library, and you have the ability to have multiple connective tissues, whether real relatives, and you have a throwback of a lineage that truly exists. There is a run of 83 weeks, you have all that kind of stuff.

Historically speaking, its important to remember WCW as they were the only truly competitive alternative to WWE (then-WWF) back in the 1990's. That said, Jarrett's right; it is 23+ years since the Monday Night Wars ended and there's no need to revive it.

What WWE can do is use their platform on Netflix to broadcast past WCW classic matches; in a sense, create a WWE Classics channel and air WCW there.

 

[Dead2009]

They had a WWE Classics channel and they killed it off because of the WWE Network. They cant use Netflix for anything else other than Raw until 2026 anyway.

 

[Webster]

They had a WWE Classics channel and they killed it off because of the WWE Network. They cant use Netflix for anything else other than Raw until 2026 anyway.

If Haitch is smart, he'll revive it on WWE.com, then turn it into a streaming channel.

 

[Dead2009]

Nah there's no real need for a separate WWE classics channel IMO lol

 

[Dead2009]

411MANIA | MJF Takes Photo With Kurt Angle, Another ‘American Hero’

In a post on Twitter, new AEW American Champion MJF shared a photo with another 'American hero', Kurt Angle...

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I can only imagine how that went lol

 

[Dead2009]

EXCLUSIVE - Soft Ground, Soft Targets: How Daniel Bumbash Duped the Wrestling World

Soft Ground, Soft Targets: How Daniel Bumbash Duped the Wrestling World The Rising Tide of SGW Uganda Amid a vast open field surrounded by stunning bamboo groves, two young men, covered from head to toe in mud, batter themselves over the head with various weapons and objects before an uproarious...

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Well damn. Apparently it's been outed as a scam.

 

[Dead2009]

411MANIA | ‘Taskmaster’ Kevin Sullivan Has Passed Away At 74

Former WCW wrestler and booker 'Taskmaster' Kevin Sullivan has passed away at the age of 74...

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[Webster]

411MANIA | ‘Taskmaster’ Kevin Sullivan Has Passed Away At 74

Former WCW wrestler and booker 'Taskmaster' Kevin Sullivan has passed away at the age of 74...

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[Dead2009]

411MANIA | Matt Cardona Wins Wrestlepalooza Title At F1RST Wrestling Blood, Sweat, & Beers VI

Matt Cardona may be injured, but he is also the new F1RST Wrestlepalooza champion following the promotion's Blood, Sweat, & Beers VI show.

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[Dead2009]

How Major Bendies Grew From A Podcast About Toys Into A Wrestling Figure Powerhouse

Former WWE wrestlers Matt Cardona and Brian Myers have built an action figure company with their friends and fans.

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[Webster]

411MANIA | Matt Cardona Wins Wrestlepalooza Title At F1RST Wrestling Blood, Sweat, & Beers VI

Matt Cardona may be injured, but he is also the new F1RST Wrestlepalooza champion following the promotion's Blood, Sweat, & Beers VI show.

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How Major Bendies Grew From A Podcast About Toys Into A Wrestling Figure Powerhouse

Former WWE wrestlers Matt Cardona and Brian Myers have built an action figure company with their friends and fans.

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Matt Cardona could retire from wrestling right now, Dead, and the man would be set as a legend in the wrestling business; I mean, how many people have managed to completely remake themselves like he has? From the Long Island sensation to the Deathmatch King, how many conventional wisdoms has he busted apart in his career?

 

[Dead2009]

I wouldnt necessarily call him a legend....

 

[Webster]

I wouldnt necessarily call him a legend....

Offhand, how many wrestlers completely revamped their gimmicks as Cardona did?
I mean, he went from at best a mid-card Internet sensation to a main eventer; that right there puts you in legend status because for most wrestlers, they're usually known for at best one gimmick, for good or bad.