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Kids, guns and doctorsââ¬â¢ rights
- Thread starter Jazzy
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It's the law. There're some exceptions for law enforcement and military, also some exceptions for re-enactments, hunting and collection of antiques. It's not just firearms either.Jazzy said:
I found a government thingy covering it... guess that wouldn't do you much good, though
I realise that puts me at a slight disadvantage here, yes, nonetheless, a question is a question. You said that anyone enquiring about you owning a firearm would be intruding on your privacy. Ok. But why would you need a law for that?
It'd be a law against rude people intruding on what's none of their business, if you make that illegal you'll need a lot more cops to deal with all the annoying people, not just doctors.
@EE: Sticking to the topic, I will ask you again: How does this law impinge on the doctors ability to treat a person that owns a firearm? We have proved in several posts that doctors are not trained to deliver this critical information (which made me crack up) and we have also proved that when they were allowed to, it made no difference on how firearm owners or their children benefited from it. They signed a law because it's an invasion of privacy. Get it now?
Jazzy said:
I'm guessing its probably because firearms are tools for killing and maybe in his country killing isn't a promoted value?
Because having a firearm in the home could increase the likelihood of a violent incident, weapons can carry infection, ehhh idk,,
Temerit said:
And killing is a promoted value here?
If so, like most other government programs, it's a failure.
How many are killed each year in a motor vehicle (accidents on the big table).
According to the CDC, Homicide is 15th on the list of causes of death in the US, behind things like Septicemia and Liver Failure. And their Homicide rate also included people who were killed in other ways.
http://www.cdc.gov/NCHS/data/nvsr/nvsr58/nvsr58_19.pdf
Temerit said:
What do I get promoted to if someone breaks in my home, tries to rape me and I shoot them?
There is no proof that having a firearm in the home increases the risk of a violent incident. If I'm wrong, please feel free to post a link proving that. Can you please tell me what infection firearms carry?
Part of T's problem seems to be with having honest law-abiding citizens able to defend themselves, their families, and their property from those who would seek to do them harm.
That is NOT the job of the police. The police are reactionary, they respond after a crime has occurred. Sometimes they get lucky and see something as it is happening, but most of the time, they arrive afterward.
If some thug breaks into Jazzy's house, he's not there to sing Mary Poppins songs to her, and by the time the cops got there, unless she was able to deter him, things would be bad. Since she is able to pick up a meaningful weapon and is capable of using deadly force, now when the cops arrive, all they have to do is pronounce the criminal dead.
OH, she could use pepper spray, somebody just said.
No. Pepper spray and tear gas are useless against the mentally ill or those high on drugs. You could hose them down with enough of it to supply a chili cook off with spice and they'll keep coming.
But what if he...
Then she is in the same fix she would have been without it. Right?
That is NOT the job of the police. The police are reactionary, they respond after a crime has occurred. Sometimes they get lucky and see something as it is happening, but most of the time, they arrive afterward.
If some thug breaks into Jazzy's house, he's not there to sing Mary Poppins songs to her, and by the time the cops got there, unless she was able to deter him, things would be bad. Since she is able to pick up a meaningful weapon and is capable of using deadly force, now when the cops arrive, all they have to do is pronounce the criminal dead.
OH, she could use pepper spray, somebody just said.
No. Pepper spray and tear gas are useless against the mentally ill or those high on drugs. You could hose them down with enough of it to supply a chili cook off with spice and they'll keep coming.
But what if he...
Then she is in the same fix she would have been without it. Right?
Got the homicides map! http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/44/Homicide-world.png
Gotta say, looks like we're doing all right
Gotta say, looks like we're doing all right
...Actually also illegal.DrLeftover said:
Evil Eye said:Got the homicides map! http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/44/Homicide-world.png
Gotta say, looks like we're doing all right
...Actually also illegal.
Having a hard time finding on your map what percentage of children committed homicides because doctors weren't allowed to give them critical information regarding firearms. Can you show me where to find that?
Pepper spray, to educate you, is NOT illegal to buy or possess where I live. Oh, were you talking where you live?
Doesn't show anything that specific, it's just a map of homicides per 1000 people for 2009... Probably 2009.Jazzy said:Having a hard time finding on your map what percentage of children committed homicides because doctors weren't allowed to give them critical information regarding firearms. Can you show me where to find that?
It's just building on what DrLeftover posted.
I did say also...Jazzy said:Oh, were you talking where you live?
It usually isJazzy said:
Same goes for you guys, even though this actually applies to you. Thing is, it's not about wings or weapons, it's about curbing someone's right to ask questions.
Suppose for a moment there was a law that made it illegal for you to ask, uhm *thinks of something.*... someone whether or not they've had sex. It's the same thing. The question imposes on a person's privacy... sorta, the fact that it's a question means it's avoidable and therefore not necessarily intrusive. Making a law would, in my opinion, be ridiculous.
Absolutely true, but that's not really a reason to make it illegal.+freezy said:
By that logic they wouldn't be able to ask their spouse how their day was+freezy said:
Harvesting personal information by asking questions for any goal not related to their job or just personal interest (small talk), while on the job (to prevent the above), should not be allowed by the employer.
What I do or do not legally own is also none of my employer's business.
Otherwise.... Oh, you have too many kitchen knives, we need to keep you under observation is next because we all know those are dangerous as well.
http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/elyria-police-say-woman-was-stabbed-with-kitchen-knife
Otherwise.... Oh, you have too many kitchen knives, we need to keep you under observation is next because we all know those are dangerous as well.
http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/elyria-police-say-woman-was-stabbed-with-kitchen-knife
