Slavery

[Jazzy]

Should Blacks still hold resentment towards America/Whites for slavery?

Why or Why not?

 

[ʏᴇᴏᴜ]

No. They should not. It happened in the past, its viewed as a bad choice in history and there are more pressuring matters at hand right now other than old hatred. Such as the fact that there are more slaves right now than ever in history, or that war is everywhere. If humans keep themselves attached to old hatred then they will never get a chance to stop the new one from coming.​

 

[DrLeftover]

If they didn't, what would Tavis Smiley, AL Sharpton, Bryant Gumbel, and that crowd do for a living?

What they should do is go out and check with everybody who is, say, the direct child or even grandchild of somebody who was held a slave before Lincoln's Emancipation, or the passage of 13th Amendment, either will do, and ASK THEM how they feel about the matter.

Everybody else just needs to suck it up and move on.

 

[ʏᴇᴏᴜ]

If they didn't, what would Tavis Smiley, AL Sharpton, Bryant Gumbel, and that crowd do for a living?

What they should do is go out and check with everybody who is, say, the direct child or even grandchild of somebody who was held a slave before Lincoln's Emancipation, or the passage of 13th Amendment, either will do, and ASK THEM how they feel about the matter.

Everybody else just needs to suck it up and move on.

That would do nothing but cause chaos on a gigantic scale. Many other countries or people have lost a great deal and forgiven those who has taken it from them, ending the chaos and hatred. It will only linger as long as people fight for or against it. Give up the hatred, forgive and move on ahead for the future to ensure that it never repeats itself.​

 

[seasidemike]

Well consider this point in this argument.

Where did the slaves come from? Mostly Africa. The slave trade was massive and the slaves which were captured to be sold were rounded up in Africa by other African tribes profiting from the slave trade. So therefore, should they not also hold responsible the African tribes that were profiting from hunting and capturing other Africans to sell? Where do you stop on the blame game?

The other argument that I would have is that prior to the creation of the slave trade into the US, the slave trade was already booming with the export of native South Americans captured to be slaves in Europe during the Spanish and Portuguese conquering of South America. Native South Americans were being hunted, captured and sold into Europe.

The black people in the States are not the only victims of slavery.

If fact, to this very day slavery still takes place. Everyday women are kidnapped, sold and transported across in countries in the sex slave industry which is very profitable and very much taking place right under our modern day noses. If women were a race and not a gender, the word would be horrified what is done to them every day.

 

[ʏᴇᴏᴜ]

Well consider this point in this argument.

Where did the slaves come from?  Mostly Africa.  The slave trade was massive and the slaves which were captured to be sold were rounded up in Africa by other African tribes profiting from the slave trade.  So therefore, should they not also hold responsible the African tribes that were profiting from hunting and capturing other Africans to sell?  Where do you stop on the blame game?

The other argument that I would have is that prior to the creation of the slave trade into the US, the slave trade was already booming with the export of native South Americans captured to be slaves in Europe during the Spanish and Portuguese conquering of South America.  Native South Americans were being hunted, captured and sold into Europe.

The black people in the States are not the only victims of slavery.

If fact, to this very day slavery still takes place.  Everyday women are kidnapped, sold and transported across in countries in the sex slave industry which is very profitable and very much taking place right under our modern day noses.  If women were a race and not a gender, the word would be horrified what is done to them every day.

Then I raise the question. Should you focus on what has happened, what you cannot do anything about and comfort those who haven't personally gone through it instead of using your resources to help out the people who are suffering right now? The people who are dying, being enslaved, being killed, being hated and being left alone in the dark? Should you fight for the well-being of those who has passed away, or for those who have yet to pass away?

You don't fight for a cause that is dead, you forgive it and move on. That is where the "blame game" stops.

​

 

[seasidemike]

Well consider this point in this argument.

Where did the slaves come from?  Mostly Africa.  The slave trade was massive and the slaves which were captured to be sold were rounded up in Africa by other African tribes profiting from the slave trade.  So therefore, should they not also hold responsible the African tribes that were profiting from hunting and capturing other Africans to sell?  Where do you stop on the blame game?

The other argument that I would have is that prior to the creation of the slave trade into the US, the slave trade was already booming with the export of native South Americans captured to be slaves in Europe during the Spanish and Portuguese conquering of South America.  Native South Americans were being hunted, captured and sold into Europe.

The black people in the States are not the only victims of slavery.

If fact, to this very day slavery still takes place.  Everyday women are kidnapped, sold and transported across in countries in the sex slave industry which is very profitable and very much taking place right under our modern day noses.  If women were a race and not a gender, the word would be horrified what is done to them every day.

Then I raise the question. Should you focus on what has happened, what you cannot do anything about and comfort those who haven't personally gone through it instead of using your resources to help out the people who are suffering right now? The people who are dying, being enslaved, being killed, being hated and being left alone in the dark? Should you fight for the well-being of those who has passed away, or for those who have yet to pass away?

You don't fight for a cause that is dead, you forgive it and move on. That is where the "blame game" stops.

​

You can't change the past, only the future and the only thing worth fighting for is that.

 

[ʏᴇᴏᴜ]

You can't change the past, only the future and the only thing worth fighting for is that.

Which has been my point over this entire thread.​

 

[DrLeftover]

Human slavery existed on the continent of Africa BEFORE the Europeans turned it into an export business.

And, now, something on the order of two hundred years after the last commercial slaver found something else to do for a living, Human Slavery STILL exists on the continent of Africa. As well as elsewhere in the 'developing world'.

But you don't see those gentleman organizing a Million Man March against it.

Odd, no?

 

[Nebulous]

Should Blacks still hold resentment towards America/Whites for slavery?

No, nobody in present day america enslaved anyone.  You can't blame past events on present day people.  Doesn't make much sense to me.

 

[MrDawn]

Why do I feel like people and society is always going to have race as an issue?

 

[Nebulous]

Why do I feel like people and society is always going to have race as an issue?

Naturally, its a primal instinct for some.

 

[Dee]

They should hold resentment toward the fact that many of them still get singled out for the color of their skin.  After all, the generation of young black people now did not go through slavery, but the effects of it are still widely present in very different and subtle ways that much of the country fails to ignore or even understand/learn.  We know racism still exists.  We've seen it in several different situations, we hear about it in broadcasts on public radio, we watch movies with racism in them, etc. And until we as an entire country, black, white, latino, whatever you are, work together to eradicate racism and the reason why it still exists today then you better bet your ass they're going to have something to resent white people for.

 

[+paradox]

they will resent whites for slavery as long as there's whites that hate them...

 

[seasidemike]

They should hold resentment toward the fact that many of them still get singled out for the color of their skin.  After all, the generation of young black people now did not go through slavery, but the effects of it are still widely present in very different and subtle ways that much of the country fails to ignore or even understand/learn.  We know racism still exists.  We've seen it in several different situations, we hear about it in broadcasts on public radio, we watch movies with racism in them, etc.  And until we as an entire country, black, white, latino, whatever you are, work together to eradicate racism and the reason why it still exists today then you better bet your ass they're going to have something to resent white people for.

That's actually a great point and really when you think about it, although slavery was abolished a long time ago the civil rights movement was only in the 60s which was not all that long ago.

Good post

 

[Sinon]

They certainly can resent white people who had nothing to do with their enslavement.

Of course, to make it fair, it should be totally fine for white people to racially profile blacks.

Right?

 

[Dee]

They should hold resentment toward the fact that many of them still get singled out for the color of their skin.  After all, the generation of young black people now did not go through slavery, but the effects of it are still widely present in very different and subtle ways that much of the country fails to ignore or even understand/learn.  We know racism still exists.  We've seen it in several different situations, we hear about it in broadcasts on public radio, we watch movies with racism in them, etc.  And until we as an entire country, black, white, latino, whatever you are, work together to eradicate racism and the reason why it still exists today then you better bet your ass they're going to have something to resent white people for.

That's actually a great point and really when you think about it, although slavery was abolished a long time ago the civil rights movement was only in the 60s which was not all that long ago.

Good post

It's really kind of sad to think only half a century--50 some years--has gone by since we made the way black people were treated illegal. That is not a lot of time in comparison to the history of the human race, and although certain things are now illegal, the ideals still exist within one or two generations who are still living.

 

[+paradox]

They certainly can resent white people who had nothing to do with their enslavement.

Of course, to make it fair, it should be totally fine for white people to racially profile blacks.

Right?

only if the blacks are the only race that commits crime and is immoral...

well, you know the answer to that... if you didn't, the answer is no...

the u.s. government thinks everyone and every group is a potential terrorist with no substance in most cases... the government now loves the word terrorist and can claim anyone to be a terrorist so that they have more legal right to shoot you and/or harass/jail you if they don't like you...

the government are the biggest terrorists...

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Well these blacks still having resentment need to have resentment of there own race also because free blacks in the South were slave holders also in large numbers. So using that excuse at anytime is hypocritical.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

They should hold resentment toward the fact that many of them still get singled out for the color of their skin.  After all, the generation of young black people now did not go through slavery, but the effects of it are still widely present in very different and subtle ways that much of the country fails to ignore or even understand/learn.  We know racism still exists.  We've seen it in several different situations, we hear about it in broadcasts on public radio, we watch movies with racism in them, etc.  And until we as an entire country, black, white, latino, whatever you are, work together to eradicate racism and the reason why it still exists today then you better bet your ass they're going to have something to resent white people for.

There is a big difference between racism and profiling a person for singling out. And when the black community commits 45% of the crimes in America and are 13% of the population yes people are going to single out the guy who is dressed like a thug with pants hanging down to his knees. Otherwise in todays America a small percentage of blacks and whites are equally racist. This is not a problem with Americans no matter how hard obama tries to make a burning match a forest fire.