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Nebulous

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What should kids be taught at school that they aren't now?
 
Time management
Financial management
Personal communication skills
Survival skills/basic first aid
Gun safety
 
Education! Lol just kidding..

On a serious note,

1. time management skills
2. financial management skills
3. how to accept failure (it's ok to fail) - No more participation awards!
4. Being smart and educated is cool. Reading is cool. Nerds are cool.
 
Jazzy said:
Time management
Financial management
Personal communication skills
Survival skills/basic first aid

These, these, these.

Also, how to fill out applications.
How to think for one's self and not how to jog your rote memory for standardized testing.
 
Jazzy said:
Time management
Financial management
Personal communication skills
Survival skills/basic first aid
Gun safety

Perfect!
 
seasidemike said:
Respect for others

That's a good one! Kids these days are really rude and disrespectful, overly entitled and snotty.

Well, not all of them. But too many.
 
Mr. 2015 said:
seasidemike said:
Respect for others

That's a good one! Kids these days are really rude and disrespectful, overly entitled and snotty.

Well, not all of them.  But too many.

that's more of the parents/guardians responsibility though, no? :|
 
+Holy Ghost said:
Mr. 2015 said:
seasidemike said:
Respect for others

That's a good one! Kids these days are really rude and disrespectful, overly entitled and snotty.

Well, not all of them.  But too many.

that's more of the parents/guardians responsibility though, no? :|

Very much respect has to come from the parent/guardian. It's where it should be taught initially, but also reminded and instilled at school.
 
Dee said:
+Holy Ghost said:
Mr. 2015 said:
seasidemike said:
Respect for others

That's a good one! Kids these days are really rude and disrespectful, overly entitled and snotty.

Well, not all of them.  But too many.

that's more of the parents/guardians responsibility though, no? :|

Very much respect has to come from the parent/guardian.  It's where it should be taught initially, but also reminded and instilled at school.

what if the teacher(s) conflict with the child(ren)'s parent(s)/guardian's teaching of respect? :|
 
+Holy Ghost said:
Dee said:
+Holy Ghost said:
Mr. 2015 said:
seasidemike said:
Respect for others

That's a good one! Kids these days are really rude and disrespectful, overly entitled and snotty.

Well, not all of them.  But too many.

that's more of the parents/guardians responsibility though, no? :|

Very much respect has to come from the parent/guardian.  It's where it should be taught initially, but also reminded and instilled at school.

what if the teacher(s) conflict with the child(ren)'s parent(s)/guardian's teaching of respect? :|

In that case, it's still the parents job to pay attention to what their children are learning. This is still in the parent's hands as long as they take interest and have conversations with their children. If they don't like the way something is being taught, then they can request to have their child moved to a different class.
 
same can be said about guns and gun safety...

some parents don't want their children to be taught about guns and such, i'm sure... :|

maybe that falls under the parents responsibility instead of public school?
 
+Holy Ghost said:
same can be said about guns and gun safety...

some parents don't want their children to be taught about guns and such, i'm sure... :|

maybe that falls under the parents responsibility instead of public school?

It's perfectly fine for a parent not to want to teach their child how to handle a gun.  They have their reasons.  Just because one person doesn't agree with it doesn't mean they're wrong.  It would be like saying, "I refuse to teach my child how to sky dive," or "I refuse to teach my child how to ride a dirt bike and take jumps through a burning ring of fire."  People have their reasons, and these should not be the responsibility of the schools.
 
Dee said:
+Holy Ghost said:
same can be said about guns and gun safety...

some parents don't want their children to be taught about guns and such, i'm sure... :|

maybe that falls under the parents responsibility instead of public school?

It's perfectly fine for a parent not to want to teach their child how to handle a gun.  They have their reasons.  Just because one person doesn't agree with it doesn't mean they're wrong.  It would be like saying, "I refuse to teach my child how to sky dive," or "I refuse to teach my child how to ride a dirt bike and take jumps through a burning ring of fire."  People have their reasons, and these should not be the responsibility of the schools.

Except kids jumping out of planes is not a problem. And off road motorcycles are not a national issue killing children. While burning rings of fire are not issues in any neighborhood I know. So maybe if they did teach gun safety and hands on training on how deadly they are maybe the next kid who visits there friends house and finds a gun in the parents night stand will know better to play with it.
 
TRUE LIBERTY said:
Dee said:
+Holy Ghost said:
same can be said about guns and gun safety...

some parents don't want their children to be taught about guns and such, i'm sure... :|

maybe that falls under the parents responsibility instead of public school?

It's perfectly fine for a parent not to want to teach their child how to handle a gun.  They have their reasons.  Just because one person doesn't agree with it doesn't mean they're wrong.  It would be like saying, "I refuse to teach my child how to sky dive," or "I refuse to teach my child how to ride a dirt bike and take jumps through a burning ring of fire."  People have their reasons, and these should not be the responsibility of the schools.

Except kids jumping out of planes is not a problem. And off road motorcycles are not a national issue killing children. While burning rings of fire are not issues in any neighborhood I know. So maybe if they did teach gun safety and hands on training on how deadly they are maybe the next kid who visits there friends house and finds a gun in the parents night stand will know better to play with it.

This is not a proven fact. For instance, a young girl was given a powerful gun in a range with an instructor and he was killed because of a tragic accident, all of this despite taking plenty of precautions. This is just one example. However, not everyone agrees with the thought that teaching kids the gravity of guns will learn them not to touch/play with one. Everyone is different and again, this isn't a proven enough fact to convince them of it.
 
Dee said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
Dee said:
+Holy Ghost said:
same can be said about guns and gun safety...

some parents don't want their children to be taught about guns and such, i'm sure... :|

maybe that falls under the parents responsibility instead of public school?

It's perfectly fine for a parent not to want to teach their child how to handle a gun.  They have their reasons.  Just because one person doesn't agree with it doesn't mean they're wrong.  It would be like saying, "I refuse to teach my child how to sky dive," or "I refuse to teach my child how to ride a dirt bike and take jumps through a burning ring of fire."  People have their reasons, and these should not be the responsibility of the schools.

Except kids jumping out of planes is not a problem. And off road motorcycles are not a national issue killing children. While burning rings of fire are not issues in any neighborhood I know. So maybe if they did teach gun safety and hands on training on how deadly they are maybe the next kid who visits there friends house and finds a gun in the parents night stand will know better to play with it.

This is not a proven fact.  For instance, a young girl was given a powerful gun in a range with an instructor and he was killed because of a tragic accident, all of this despite taking plenty of precautions.  This is just one example.  However, not everyone agrees with the thought that teaching kids the gravity of guns will learn them not to touch/play with one.  Everyone is different and again, this isn't a proven enough fact to convince them of it.

It is more proven then not since kids with guns in schools was common place for over a hundred years with quite a good safety record and no mass shootings of dead innocent people let alone accidents.

So one stupid instructor that gave a girl the kind of gun she should not have been using does not negate the fact that it would be common sense to teach kids safety for something they have a much higher priority to run into then a ring of fire.
 
TRUE LIBERTY said:
Dee said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
Dee said:
+Holy Ghost said:
same can be said about guns and gun safety...

some parents don't want their children to be taught about guns and such, i'm sure... :|

maybe that falls under the parents responsibility instead of public school?

It's perfectly fine for a parent not to want to teach their child how to handle a gun.  They have their reasons.  Just because one person doesn't agree with it doesn't mean they're wrong.  It would be like saying, "I refuse to teach my child how to sky dive," or "I refuse to teach my child how to ride a dirt bike and take jumps through a burning ring of fire."  People have their reasons, and these should not be the responsibility of the schools.

Except kids jumping out of planes is not a problem. And off road motorcycles are not a national issue killing children. While burning rings of fire are not issues in any neighborhood I know. So maybe if they did teach gun safety and hands on training on how deadly they are maybe the next kid who visits there friends house and finds a gun in the parents night stand will know better to play with it.

This is not a proven fact.  For instance, a young girl was given a powerful gun in a range with an instructor and he was killed because of a tragic accident, all of this despite taking plenty of precautions.  This is just one example.  However, not everyone agrees with the thought that teaching kids the gravity of guns will learn them not to touch/play with one.  Everyone is different and again, this isn't a proven enough fact to convince them of it.

It is more proven then not since kids with guns in schools was common place for over a hundred years with quite a good safety record and no mass shootings of dead innocent people let alone accidents.

So one stupid instructor that gave a girl the kind of gun she should not have been using does not negate the fact that it would be common sense to teach kids safety for something they have a much higher priority to run into then a ring of fire.

Because it is not 100% effective, and since our media today likes to blow up sensational news stories, it seems we are having more shootings constantly.  However, many of these instances don't determine whether a child knows how serious operating a gun can be.  Quite obviously the ones in the news we hear about could use a gun because they managed to load and fire one (or several).  That is more of a matter of intent as opposed to teaching children why guns are dangerous.  These kids DID know they were dangerous because of their intent and that is a mental health issue, not a "let's teach kids how dangerous guns are so that they are less likely to use them" issue.
 
Thats kind of like saying since there are so many car accidents among teenagers who do not use common sense before driving we should not teach safe driving habits to any of them.

Or because so many little children die in pools from drowning in Florida every year we should not allow kids to learn how to swim safely.
 
I never said we shouldn't teach gun safety, but rather giving examples of why some people who believe we shouldn't.  I'm of the mindset that we don't need to make gun safety a core class in school or even an elective, however, because to me a gun is a tool for death.  Cars are not tools for death and neither are swimming pools.  They are both completely different things that make our lives either easier and/or for enrichment.  They do come with their dangers, but their main purpose is not to make killing things easier and at a higher rate.  And while guns can be used for sport like target practice in a nonlethal manner, that was not the intent.  

My belief on the matter is 1000% that PARENTS should be the ones to decide whether they want their children to be schooled on the matter gun safety and usage, not mandated by public schools (an offer of it being an elective course would take care of this).
 

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