Does God exist?

[Evil Eye]

Since Pascal's wager was mentioned I'd like to post a quote.

This is very similar to the suggestion put forward by the Quirmian philosopher Ventre, who said, 'Possibly the gods exist, and possibly they do not. So why not believe in them in any case? If it's all true you'll go to a lovely place when you die, and if it isn't then you've lost nothing, right?' When he died he woke up in a circle of gods holding nasty-looking sticks and one of them said, 'We're going to show you what we think of Mr Clever Dick in these parts...'

Which, if we're to believe in a god that punishes those who do not believe with eternal flame, sounds likely enough.

The quote actually runs as follows:

Greed I could maybe get behind, "the love of money" however would imply there was no evil before money. I rather doubt the existence of evil hinges on money.

You WILL KNOW

about five minutes after your corporeal self assumes room temperature.

Except if there is nothing beyond death there won't be a you to know.

 

[+paradox]

Since Pascal's wager was mentioned I'd like to post a quote.

This is very similar to the suggestion put forward by the Quirmian philosopher Ventre, who said, 'Possibly the gods exist, and possibly they do not. So why not believe in them in any case? If it's all true you'll go to a lovely place when you die, and if it isn't then you've lost nothing, right?' When he died he woke up in a circle of gods holding nasty-looking sticks and one of them said, 'We're going to show you what we think of Mr Clever Dick in these parts...'

Which, if we're to believe in a god that punishes those who do not believe with eternal flame, sounds likely enough.
sounds like you're assuming that god will punish those that do not believe in him, but how do you know? no one knows how god works, and where your spirit goes after...

The quote actually runs as follows:

Greed I could maybe get behind, "the love of money" however would imply there was no evil before money. I rather doubt the existence of evil hinges on money.
the love of money ain't the root of all evil, but the love of money and greed is the main reason for so many to be cold hearten and evil...

You WILL KNOW about five minutes after your corporeal self assumes room temperature.

Except if there is nothing beyond death there won't be a you to know.
there would be a 'spirit you' that would know... (;

 

[Evil Eye]

sounds like you're assuming that god will punish those that do not believe in him, but how do you know? no one knows how god works, and where your spirit goes after...

I am not assuming a thing, but I'm sure you are aware there are people who like to hold up signs saying "unbelievers go to hell" or some such. Indeed, no one knows what happens after death.

The point was that, if the angry people with signs are right and there is some sort of vengeful, petty, god intent on punishing all those who refuse to worship it, Pascal's wager is no longer a safe bet.

the love of money ain't the root of all evil, but the love of money and greed is the main reason for so many to be cold hearten and evil...

Certainly, but that wasn't what the quote - or misquote - said, meaning neither is necessarily better than the other.

there would be a 'spirit you' that would know... (;

[/quote]Not if there was no such thing.

 

[Ellie1142545]

Does God really exist.....You know, I wondered that myself, at one time.....I'd just started attending Church, and was really hearing about Him for the first time.....I'd just started reading the Bible, and couldn't make heads or tails of it.....So.....I became so brave (more like foolish), and asked the Minister.....How do you know that God is real? Oops!! I might add that Pastor Weiferich had just been Ordained as a Minister, and the Tabernacle Assembly of God, was his first assignment as a Minister....And he didn't know how to answer that loaded question.....But.....

Someone else did answer it. She told me that no one will convince me of the Reality of God, but she told me, that even she had wondered, and someone told her to read her Bible as if it's a normal book, and to continue to read it like that, until it speaks.....In other words, until you see......So I did that....Read it like a book.....And I was convinced after the first reading, that God is real....Very real.....And I continued to read my Bible like that for a good number of years....I still read my Bible daily....In the morning, after I get up, and in the evening, just before I turn in to bed for the night.....

God is real.....His Son has proved it......[/font][/size]

 

[DrLeftover]

I've said it before, and I've said it on here before.

And I'll say it again, now. And I'll probably say it again sooner or later.


"I have seen the Hand of God at work in the lives of people who deny He exists."
- Doc L

 

[Bluezone777]

I have too so that's two that can attest to that.

 

[Ellie1142545]

Well Doc L., and Bluezone.....Add me to that list, because so have I....Time and time again, I have seen Him at work, through the very people who deny Him.....