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ISIS Video Claims Another Westerner Beheaded

DrLeftover said:
I didn't say it was.

But in the case of the executions by the Caliphate, I don't believe those to be false flags or disinformation.

It has been demonstrated by multiple unrelated credible organizations, including outside Islamic outlets, that ISIL has become very good at killing defenseless civilians.

which is not good either, i'm not disputing the evil of those people...

it's a war, and if your enemy catches you, then they will kill you, especially if you're on their land...

they do not care if you're an american civilian or a cia agent, and how would they even know?

one thing i don't understand is why are people over there in a war zone anyways?
 
seasidemike said:
They are a plague in this earth and need to be wiped out fully and completely

didn't hitler say that about the jews? :|
 
+Justice said:
seasidemike said:
They are a plague in this earth and need to be wiped out fully and completely

didn't hitler say that about the jews? :|

Wasn't just Hitler that said that about the Jews.

Remember Henry Ford and his absolute acceptance of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion?

And then there was Nebulous Kennedy who was at least a Nazi sympathizer, if not a collaborationist during the war.

Oh, and while we were looking at Germany, we could go back to Martin Luther and his seminal work about "the Jews and their Lies".

The only difference was, Old Adolph could make good on his threat.
 
then does it hold any truth? :|

why so many come out and have such a view towards them if they don't do anything wrong?
 
identityissues8 said:
So true, you hear the media again and again (lately) - warning people not get sucked in by ISIS 'Amazing propaganda machine' (that, by the way, isn't even that good) all the while being spoon-fed Zionist crap (about how they're under attack, despite Gaza simply not having the means to even produce threatening weaponry) while behind the scenes Israel carpet bomb a Gazan School with White Phosphorus (a well known incident, and war crime.)

Just mind-blowing.

Tell that to the families of the victims of the Munich Massacre, my friend... or or how 'bout we go through the entire history of modern Israel and all the times they've been attacked.

Like I said, when the rest of the Middle East decides to recognize Israel's right-to-exist, I might - and I emphasize might - start listening to your arguments...until then, the rest of the Middle East can all go pound sand.

*reads the last bit* FWIW, I'll tell you what I think Israel should do. They oughta' take one of those 200 or so nukes they supposedly have, stick it onto a ballistic missile...and point the sounvabitch at Mecca. Then, say to the rest of the Middle east: attack us once more - doesn't matter how, by the way - but attack us once more and Mecca gets it. :mad: :mad: :mad:
 
@Webster, you can't punish all for the doings of only a few...
 
+Justice said:
@Webster, you can't punish all for the doings of only a few...

So? That's what everyone attacking Israel does; turnabout's fair play here.
 
+Justice said:
Webster said:
When the rest of the Middle East, decides to recognize Israel's right-to-exist, then - and only then, my friend - will I begin to listen to opposing arguments. Until then, that part of the world - Israel excepted - can all go pound sand.

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just like how israel can't recognize palestinian's right to exist on their own land that israel took from them? makes perfect sense... israel wants the pretty much the rest of the middle east to not exist...

Thank you Justice, exactly right.
Israel is made up, systematically drives a people off of their own land and essentially imprisons them in a small section of their own country. And then tries to wipe them out, oh, and has a cry whenever these people try to exercise their right to resist such a hostile and awful takeover.

I really expected more from you Webster - as this is not a migration, it's nothing short of a landgrab that has turned into ethnic cleansing to wipe out an 'inconvenient people'.

You think if you were in the positions of the Palestinians you WOULDN'T try and build a crappy and ineffective bomb hoping it does SOMETHING to change your lot with your oppressors (who are attacking you with world class weaponry). Stop kidding yourself, dude.
 
Webster said:
Tell that to the families of the victims of the Munich Massacre, my friend... or or how 'bout we go through the entire history of modern Israel and all the times they've been attacked.

Like I said, when the rest of the Middle East decides to recognize Israel's right-to-exist, I might - and I emphasize might - start listening to your arguments...until then, the rest of the Middle East can all go pound sand.

*reads the last bit* FWIW, I'll tell you what I think Israel should do. They oughta' take one of those 200 or so nukes they supposedly have, stick it onto a ballistic missile...and point the sounvabitch at Mecca. Then, say to the rest of the Middle east: attack us once more - doesn't matter how, by the way - but attack us once more and Mecca gets it.  :mad:  :mad:  :mad:
If you want ot get to tyhe root of why modern Israel has been attacked, you need to be willing to give credence to the way by which they came into existence.

'This is our land now. Get off.' (To, by the way, an innocent people who had rightful ownership.)

The furor is not from nowhere, it's from their actions, murders and human rights abuses as a nation.

Also, wow. Just wow @ 'Attack us once more and Mecca gets it.'
 
Webster said:
identityissues8 said:
So true, you hear the media again and again (lately) - warning people not get sucked in by ISIS 'Amazing propaganda machine' (that, by the way, isn't even that good) all the while being spoon-fed Zionist crap (about how they're under attack, despite Gaza simply not having the means to even produce threatening weaponry) while behind the scenes Israel carpet bomb a Gazan School with White Phosphorus (a well known incident, and war crime.)

Just mind-blowing.

Tell that to the families of the victims of the Munich Massacre, my friend... or or how 'bout we go through the entire history of modern Israel and all the times they've been attacked.

Like I said, when the rest of the Middle East decides to recognize Israel's right-to-exist, I might - and I emphasize might - start listening to your arguments...until then, the rest of the Middle East can all go pound sand.

*reads the last bit* FWIW, I'll tell you what I think Israel should do. They oughta' take one of those 200 or so nukes they supposedly have, stick it onto a ballistic missile...and point the sounvabitch at Mecca. Then, say to the rest of the Middle east: attack us once more - doesn't matter how, by the way - but attack us once more and Mecca gets it.  :mad:  :mad:  :mad:

Israel is the only country in that region really wanting any kind of peace. Israel is the only truly decent country in that region.

Glad other people besides me is seeing they need to play a much tougher game in that region.

I mean when people are trying to convince us the beheadings never happened from a group of people that Stalin would be proud of for there mass murder capabilities we are in a world of blind people.
 
Webster said:
identityissues8 said:
So true, you hear the media again and again (lately) - warning people not get sucked in by ISIS 'Amazing propaganda machine' (that, by the way, isn't even that good) all the while being spoon-fed Zionist crap (about how they're under attack, despite Gaza simply not having the means to even produce threatening weaponry) while behind the scenes Israel carpet bomb a Gazan School with White Phosphorus (a well known incident, and war crime.)

Just mind-blowing.

Tell that to the families of the victims of the Munich Massacre, my friend... or or how 'bout we go through the entire history of modern Israel and all the times they've been attacked.

Like I said, when the rest of the Middle East decides to recognize Israel's right-to-exist, I might - and I emphasize might - start listening to your arguments...until then, the rest of the Middle East can all go pound sand.

*reads the last bit* FWIW, I'll tell you what I think Israel should do. They oughta' take one of those 200 or so nukes they supposedly have, stick it onto a ballistic missile...and point the sounvabitch at Mecca. Then, say to the rest of the Middle east: attack us once more - doesn't matter how, by the way - but attack us once more and Mecca gets it.  :mad:  :mad:  :mad:

Israel is the only country in that region really wanting any kind of peace. Israel is the only truly decent country in that region.

Glad other people besides me is seeing they need to play a much tougher game in that region.

I mean when people are trying to convince us the beheadings never happened from a group of people that Stalin would be proud of for there mass murder capabilities we are in a world of blind people.
 
identityissues8 said:
Webster said:
Tell that to the families of the victims of the Munich Massacre, my friend... or or how 'bout we go through the entire history of modern Israel and all the times they've been attacked.

Like I said, when the rest of the Middle East decides to recognize Israel's right-to-exist, I might - and I emphasize might - start listening to your arguments...until then, the rest of the Middle East can all go pound sand.

*reads the last bit* FWIW, I'll tell you what I think Israel should do. They oughta' take one of those 200 or so nukes they supposedly have, stick it onto a ballistic missile...and point the sounvabitch at Mecca. Then, say to the rest of the Middle east: attack us once more - doesn't matter how, by the way - but attack us once more and Mecca gets it.  :mad:  :mad:  :mad:
If you want ot get to tyhe root of why modern Israel has been attacked, you need to be willing to give credence to the way by which they came into existence.

'This is our land now. Get off.' (To, by the way, an innocent people who had rightful ownership.)

The furor is not from nowhere, it's from their actions, murders and human rights abuses as a nation.

Also, wow. Just wow @ 'Attack us once more and Mecca gets it.'

And spreading those kinds of lies is why there will never be peace in that region until one side or the other gets brought to there knees.
 
@liberty, yeah, okay...

and the american native indians never existed either... :lol:
 
Wouldn't surprise me if LIBERTY actually thought that, Justice...

Israel wants peace...By any means possible, right? Including murdering anyone who could jeopardise their 'peace'.
Seriously LIBERTY, be honest, are you a troll? :)
 
Webster said:
+Justice said:
@Webster, you can't punish all for the doings of only a few...

So? That's what everyone attacking Israel does; turnabout's fair play here.


Israel attacks USS Liberty

During the Six-Day War, Israeli aircraft and torpedo boats attack the USS Liberty in international waters off Egypt's Gaza Strip. The intelligence ship, well-marked as an American vessel and only lightly armed, was attacked first by Israeli aircraft that fired napalm and rockets at the ship. The Liberty attempted to radio for assistance, but the Israeli aircraft blocked the transmissions. Eventually, the ship was able to make contact with the U.S. carrier Saratoga, and 12 fighter jets and four tanker planes were dispatched to defend the Liberty. When word of their deployment reached Washington, however, Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara ordered them recalled to the carrier, and they never reached the Liberty. The reason for the recall remains unclear.

Back in the Mediterranean, the initial air raid against the Liberty was over. Nine of the 294 crewmembers were dead and 60 were wounded. Suddenly, the ship was attacked by Israeli torpedo boats, which launched torpedoes and fired artillery at the ship. Under the command of its wounded captain, William L. McGonagle, the Liberty managed to avert four torpedoes, but one struck the ship at the waterline. Heavily damaged, the ship launched three lifeboats, but these were also attacked--a violation of international law. Failing to sink the Liberty, which displaced 10,000 tons, the Israelis finally desisted. In all, 34 Americans were killed and 171 were wounded in the two-hour attack. In the attack's aftermath, the Liberty managed to limp to a safe port.

Israel later apologized for the attack and offered $6.9 million in compensation, claiming that it had mistaken the Liberty for an Egyptian ship. However, Liberty survivors, and some former U.S. officials, believe that the attack was deliberate, staged to conceal Israel's pending seizure of Syria's Golan Heights, which occurred the next day. The ship's listening devices would likely have overheard Israeli military communications planning this controversial operation. Captain McGonagle was later awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor for his heroic command of the Liberty during and after the attack.


now lets kill all jews, after all, it's fair play, right? ;)

but, ya know, lets just forget about that...
 
identityissues8 said:
Wouldn't surprise me if LIBERTY actually thought that, Justice...

Israel wants peace...By any means possible, right? Including murdering anyone who could jeopardise their 'peace'.
Seriously LIBERTY, be honest, are you a troll? :)

I do not think it I know it.

They want peace from a region who never will want peace and will never except peace with the Jewish people until every last Jewish person is dead. I mean this a region that enslaves millions of women and causes death and destruction across the globe. Peace by any means is exactly what Israel needs to do at this point.

Seriously identity are you a terrorist sympathizer. We can trade nasty comments or keep it on the subject matter. But trying to silence opposing opinions seems to be preferable with these kinds of childish comments to embarrass.
 
+Justice said:
Webster said:
+Justice said:
@Webster, you can't punish all for the doings of only a few...

So? That's what everyone attacking Israel does; turnabout's fair play here.


Israel attacks USS Liberty


During the Six-Day War, Israeli aircraft and torpedo boats attack the USS Liberty in international waters off Egypt's Gaza Strip. The intelligence ship, well-marked as an American vessel and only lightly armed, was attacked first by Israeli aircraft that fired napalm and rockets at the ship. The Liberty attempted to radio for assistance, but the Israeli aircraft blocked the transmissions. Eventually, the ship was able to make contact with the U.S. carrier Saratoga, and 12 fighter jets and four tanker planes were dispatched to defend the Liberty. When word of their deployment reached Washington, however, Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara ordered them recalled to the carrier, and they never reached the Liberty. The reason for the recall remains unclear.

Back in the Mediterranean, the initial air raid against the Liberty was over. Nine of the 294 crewmembers were dead and 60 were wounded. Suddenly, the ship was attacked by Israeli torpedo boats, which launched torpedoes and fired artillery at the ship. Under the command of its wounded captain, William L. McGonagle, the Liberty managed to avert four torpedoes, but one struck the ship at the waterline. Heavily damaged, the ship launched three lifeboats, but these were also attacked--a violation of international law. Failing to sink the Liberty, which displaced 10,000 tons, the Israelis finally desisted. In all, 34 Americans were killed and 171 were wounded in the two-hour attack. In the attack's aftermath, the Liberty managed to limp to a safe port.

Israel later apologized for the attack and offered $6.9 million in compensation, claiming that it had mistaken the Liberty for an Egyptian ship. However, Liberty survivors, and some former U.S. officials, believe that the attack was deliberate, staged to conceal Israel's pending seizure of Syria's Golan Heights, which occurred the next day. The ship's listening devices would likely have overheard Israeli military communications planning this controversial operation. Captain McGonagle was later awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor for his heroic command of the Liberty during and after the attack.


now lets kill all jews, after all, it's fair play, right? ;)

but, ya know, lets just forget about that...

I am not sure what your point is when Israel was fighting for its very existence at the time with enemies at there doors on all sides. Mistakes happen in war but articles like the one above would love to spin it into something it is not. And anyone who believes the very country keeping there heads out of the water to continue the fight would put that in jeopardy is nits.
 
And everyone conveniently forgets how Egypt and Syria promised after the war they started and got there asses kicked in that these countries promised land for the Palestinians but never kept to there surrender promise. But no one ever calls them out on this. Where is outrage for these countries not giving the "Palestinians there homeland." Its easier to attack the only beacon of freedom in that region from the left and the evil in that region just keeps feeding it to them.
 

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