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ISIS Video Claims Another Westerner Beheaded

TRUE LIBERTY said:
I do not think it I know it.

They want peace from a region who never will want peace and will never except peace with the Jewish people until every last Jewish person is dead. I mean this a region that enslaves millions of women and causes death and destruction across the globe. Peace by any means is exactly what Israel needs to do at this point.

Seriously identity are you a terrorist sympathizer. We can trade nasty comments or keep it on the subject matter. But trying to silence opposing opinions seems to be preferable with these kinds of childish comments to embarrass.

What I was alluding to was thinking that Native Americans never existed. Honestly, if you believed this so - as outlandish as it is, from your comments, to me it wouldn't be a surprise.

The Jewish people had peace in the region for centuries...And then Israel was formed and the resistance it met has been played up as being 'attacks'. Let me ask you, what if that was you, or your families land? The reason for your lack of empathy is that it wasn't, and never will be. That of yourself or anyone you will ever meet - I interact with Palestinians on a daily basis, and have many Israeli friends (most of whom actively oppose the actions of their own state, vehemently at that...Funny that. People from the region who know the situation saying the polar opposite of what you are here?)
You need to get your head out of the sand and realise this is not an issue with Judaism, it's an issue of and pertaining to human rights. The Palestinians are every bit as human as the Israelis, whether you like it or not.

Israel are known to be constantly breaking war crimes, commiting crimes against the person, depriving, depressing and murdering.
Palestine is utilising it's right to resist. It's not a hard concept to follow.

Try and call me a 'terrorist sympathiser' all you wish. It's absolutely untrue, it's about your perception and the simple fact you have the inability to even identify what a terrorist is. (My evidence being your very support of a murderous state.)
I've been called a lot worse anyhow.
 
it's funny how people think it's alright to kill just because the country that's killing are "freer" than the people that they are killing...
 
identityissues8 said:
TRUE LIBERTY said:
I do not think it I know it.

They want peace from a region who never will want peace and will never except peace with the Jewish people until every last Jewish person is dead. I mean this a region that enslaves millions of women and causes death and destruction across the globe. Peace by any means is exactly what Israel needs to do at this point.

Seriously identity are you a terrorist sympathizer. We can trade nasty comments or keep it on the subject matter. But trying to silence opposing opinions seems to be preferable with these kinds of childish comments to embarrass.

What I was alluding to was thinking that Native Americans never existed. Honestly, if you believed this so - as outlandish as it is, from your comments, to me it wouldn't be a surprise.


The Jewish people had peace in the region for centuries...And then Israel was formed and the resistance it met has been played up as being 'attacks'. Let me ask you, what if that was you, or your families land? The reason for your lack of empathy is that it wasn't, and never will be. That of yourself or anyone you will ever meet - I interact with Palestinians on a daily basis, and have many Israeli friends (most of whom actively oppose the actions of their own state, vehemently at that...Funny that. People from the region who know the situation saying the polar opposite of what you are here?)
You need to get your head out of the sand and realise this is not an issue with Judaism, it's an issue of and pertaining to human rights. The Palestinians are every bit as human as the Israelis, whether you like it or not.

The Jewish people did not have peace in the region for centuries. They were never equal and always treated like 2nd class citizens and Slaughtering Jews was the norm.

Nothing is played up as attacks it was attacks.

Except the land you speak of was not stolen. The Pastinians are refuges from the wars that the Syrians abandoned. And you can go back and forth for centuries on who had the land and when. Plus when the Jews began migrating into that area before the country was formed the area was all but abandoned. The Jews and there economy they created brought in the Arabs to migrate to that area along with there unending hatred with no desire to live in peace.

You can find a group of people anywhere at anytime that does not agree on policies. But it is not even close to the majority who oppose Israels actions.

The Palestinians need to get there heads out of the sand before it is to late and get the terrorist organizations out and realize Israel is not going anywhere and begin living in peace. When they stand up against the very terrorists ruining there lives because of the intense hatred for Israel then I will take notice on how human they are.

Israel are known to be constantly breaking war crimes, commiting crimes against the person, depriving, depressing and murdering.
Palestine is utilising it's right to resist. It's not a hard concept to follow.

Israel has been playing nice for all the hell that region puts them through. Any other country would have leveled the area a long time ago. Palestine wants peace they could have it today if they cleaned out all the radical terrorist groups using them as pawns for further violence.

Try and call me a 'terrorist sympathiser' all you wish. It's absolutely untrue, it's about your perception and the simple fact you have the inability to even identify what a terrorist is. (My evidence being your very support of a murderous state.)
I've been called a lot worse anyhow.

I was making a point to just keep it on the subject matter and not the people posting. I have no idea what you are.
 
Israel has been playing nice for all the hell that region puts them through. Any other country would have leveled the area a long time ago. Palestine wants peace they could have it today if they cleaned out all the radical terrorist groups using them as pawns for further violence.
1. You're not giving this conflict the credit it's due, as to the oppression the Palestinian people are suffering.
2. You seem to have an inability to take a look at recent history and see how the state of Israel came to be.

Tell me. A foreigner comes to your house and attempts to forcibly take your land, because it's 'their land now' and essentially drives you into a secluded lot, that is more or less a prison for your family and other displaced people. You'd go quietly?
What about if, when I said forcibly, people were killed, just for trying to resist a hostile takeover of their private property?
What about if then, once this state had you cornered in a small space of land like the Gaza Strip, that state then began trying to wipe your people out for basically being 'inconvenient' to their takeover?

Puh-lease LIBERTY, if you honestly say you wouldn't go get your gun (I assume you've also misinterpreted the second amendment, yes?) and fight back!
In this case, you'd be the innocent one - oh, and you might actually have a clue what's going on in Palestine even if I did type a tame version of events.
 
also, you calling other people a terrorist sympathizer when america been terrorizing the whole world and murdering innocents for how long now? :|

but yeah, only our enemy are the terrorists...

and america's actions are all classified under the "acts of freedom" and "security"...

what makes america and israel any different from any other country or group that murders innocent people?
 
identityissues8 said:
Israel has been playing nice for all the hell that region puts them through. Any other country would have leveled the area a long time ago. Palestine wants peace they could have it today if they cleaned out all the radical terrorist groups using them as pawns for further violence.
1. You're not giving this conflict the credit it's due, as to the oppression the Palestinian people are suffering.

It is suffering they have created. They are allowing the dozen or so terrorist groups in there country to continue the attacks. There could have been peace 30 or 40 years ago. But the Palestinians allowed people like Arafat to profit from the continued warfare

2. You seem to have an inability to take a look at recent history and see how the state of Israel came to be.

It was basically a uninhabited area until the Jews started making a living off the land long before it became a country.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yZdvxNQS0M&feature=player_detailpage

And where is the anger for Syria and Egypt for not giving the homeland for Palestinians? Where are the missiles and bombs landing into there country? Because it has nothing to do with the homeland bit the annihilation of all Jews. Thats why.

Tell me. A foreigner comes to your house and attempts to forcibly take your land, because it's 'their land now' and essentially drives you into a secluded lot, that is more or less a prison for your family and other displaced people. You'd go quietly?
What about if, when I said forcibly, people were killed, just for trying to resist a hostile takeover of their private property?
What about if then, once this state had you cornered in a small space of land like the Gaza Strip, that state then began trying to wipe your people out for basically being 'inconvenient' to their takeover?

Except thats not exactly what happened. And again where is Syria and Egypt on this promise for giving land.
 
9 Facts About the Israel-Palestine Conflict On Which We Can All Agree

5. Palestine was a haven for Jewish refugees before the creation of Israel.

Some insist on arguing that Palestine is inherently anti-Semetic. This is untrue and Palestine's historical actions prove otherwise. Before Israel's creation, Palestine willingly accepted some 700,000 Jewish refugees escaping World War I and the Holocaust. This is a massive number considering Palestine's Muslim population in 1947 was only around 1.2 million. That said, Palestine did not vote for the creation of Israel. Instead Israel's creation was imposed on Palestine by the United Nations. We often hear the talking point "no country on Earth would tolerate rockets raining down on its civilians." No doubt this is true, but in fairness we must also accept that no country on Earth would tolerate being split in two without the right to self-determination or a say in the matter. If you disagree, imagine if tomorrow the United Nations decided half of your country would go to another nation of people -- while you have no say in the matter. In short, Palestine served as a haven for Jewish refugees before Israel's creation. It is important to draw on this history when trying to find common ground for the future.
 
It is suffering they have created. They are allowing the dozen or so terrorist groups in there country to continue the attacks. There could have been peace 30 or 40 years ago. But the Palestinians allowed people like Arafat to profit from the continued warfare
You realise that's akin to me calling your Republican party a terrorist group (elected political party engaging in war)...Actually, that sort of makes sense given they attacked without reason costing countless civilian lives (unlike Palestine, who are, as I have already pointed out, resisting.)

Ps; you clearly don't know the other side of this argument if you think there's no anger at Egypt.
 
but the republican party can't be "those darn terrorists", we're the good guys! *spits chewy tabaccy into can to make it go ding*

"we say we're the good guys because we say so! end of story!" :P
 
identityissues8 said:
It is suffering they have created. They are allowing the dozen or so terrorist groups in there country to continue the attacks. There could have been peace 30 or 40 years ago. But the Palestinians allowed people like Arafat to profit from the continued warfare
You realise that's akin to me calling your Republican party a terrorist group (elected political party engaging in war)...Actually, that sort of makes sense given they attacked without reason costing countless civilian lives (unlike Palestine, who are, as I have already pointed out, resisting.)

Ps; you clearly don't know the other side of this argument if you think there's no anger at Egypt.


It is! LOL!

Resisting? They are helpless pawns being terrorized and used among Hamas.

And no I do not think there is the same kind of anger against Egypt. Otherwise you would be seeing suicide bombers, rockets by the thousands landing in those countries and families being slaughtered in the middle of the night in there own homes.

Get Hamas and the rest of the terrorist groups out of that area and peace would happen today. But again thats not what they want. They never did want that. And they never will want that. They want every Jew DEAD. PERIOD. And it is long past time Israel makes a striking blow to bring them to there knees.
 
+Justice said:
9 Facts About the Israel-Palestine Conflict On Which We Can All Agree


5. Palestine was a haven for Jewish refugees before the creation of Israel.

Some insist on arguing that Palestine is inherently anti-Semetic. This is untrue and Palestine's historical actions prove otherwise. Before Israel's creation, Palestine willingly accepted some 700,000 Jewish refugees escaping World War I and the Holocaust. This is a massive number considering Palestine's Muslim population in 1947 was only around 1.2 million. That said, Palestine did not vote for the creation of Israel. Instead Israel's creation was imposed on Palestine by the United Nations. We often hear the talking point "no country on Earth would tolerate rockets raining down on its civilians." No doubt this is true, but in fairness we must also accept that no country on Earth would tolerate being split in two without the right to self-determination or a say in the matter. If you disagree, imagine if tomorrow the United Nations decided half of your country would go to another nation of people -- while you have no say in the matter. In short, Palestine served as a haven for Jewish refugees before Israel's creation. It is important to draw on this history when trying to find common ground for the future.

No, no we can't all agree on. Some time on the history channel would help the author.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usihmYTke9I&feature=player_detailpage

Actually there are a few things I do agree with that article.
 
TRUE LIBERTY said:
+Justice said:
9 Facts About the Israel-Palestine Conflict On Which We Can All Agree



5. Palestine was a haven for Jewish refugees before the creation of Israel.

Some insist on arguing that Palestine is inherently anti-Semetic. This is untrue and Palestine's historical actions prove otherwise. Before Israel's creation, Palestine willingly accepted some 700,000 Jewish refugees escaping World War I and the Holocaust. This is a massive number considering Palestine's Muslim population in 1947 was only around 1.2 million. That said, Palestine did not vote for the creation of Israel. Instead Israel's creation was imposed on Palestine by the United Nations. We often hear the talking point "no country on Earth would tolerate rockets raining down on its civilians." No doubt this is true, but in fairness we must also accept that no country on Earth would tolerate being split in two without the right to self-determination or a say in the matter. If you disagree, imagine if tomorrow the United Nations decided half of your country would go to another nation of people -- while you have no say in the matter. In short, Palestine served as a haven for Jewish refugees before Israel's creation. It is important to draw on this history when trying to find common ground for the future.

No, no we can't all agree on. Some time on the history channel would help the author.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usihmYTke9I&feature=player_detailpage

Actually there are a few things I do agree with that article.

you get your historical facts from the history channel? :lol:

that's almost as bad as getting your history from the american history books... :lol:

and again, liberty is in denial mode...
 
TRUE LIBERTY said:

just like saying that the cia didn't create and fund al-qaeda, which is proven to be true yet a lot denies... because of being brainwashed or just simply being stupid...
 
TRUE LIBERTY said:
identityissues8 said:
It is suffering they have created. They are allowing the dozen or so terrorist groups in there country to continue the attacks. There could have been peace 30 or 40 years ago. But the Palestinians allowed people like Arafat to profit from the continued warfare
You realise that's akin to me calling your Republican party a terrorist group (elected political party engaging in war)...Actually, that sort of makes sense given they attacked without reason costing countless civilian lives (unlike Palestine, who are, as I have already pointed out, resisting.)

Ps; you clearly don't know the other side of this argument if you think there's no anger at Egypt.


It is! LOL!

Resisting? They are helpless pawns being terrorized and used among Hamas.

And no I do not think there is the same kind of anger against Egypt. Otherwise you would be seeing suicide bombers, rockets by the thousands landing in those countries and families being slaughtered in the middle of the night in there own homes.

Get Hamas and the rest of the terrorist groups out of that area and peace would happen today. But again thats not what they want. They never did want that. And they never will want that. They want every Jew DEAD. PERIOD. And it is long past time Israel makes a striking blow to bring them to there knees.

why is it only the enemy are classed as a "terrorist"?

why can't israel be classed as the same when they terrorize and murder the innocent?

they are resisting the zionist jews that are power hungry murderers in reality, this is not new nor made up... israel don't want to compromise with the palestinians, because they want all of the land that they never deserved in the first place...
 
+Justice said:
they are resisting the zionist jews that are power hungry murderers in reality, this is not new nor made up... israel don't want to compromise with the palestinians, because they want all of the land that they never deserved in the first place...

:| :| Historically speaking, wouldn't the Israelis' (or the Jewish people, take your pick) have a stronger claim to the land there than the Palestinians? For that matter, what is a Palestinian? Didn't that term come into popular usage around, oh, 1948 or thereabouts?
 
+Justice said:
9 Facts About the Israel-Palestine Conflict On Which We Can All Agree


5. Palestine was a haven for Jewish refugees before the creation of Israel.

Some insist on arguing that Palestine is inherently anti-Semetic. This is untrue and Palestine's historical actions prove otherwise. Before Israel's creation, Palestine willingly accepted some 700,000 Jewish refugees escaping World War I and the Holocaust. This is a massive number considering Palestine's Muslim population in 1947 was only around 1.2 million. That said, Palestine did not vote for the creation of Israel. Instead Israel's creation was imposed on Palestine by the United Nations. We often hear the talking point "no country on Earth would tolerate rockets raining down on its civilians." No doubt this is true, but in fairness we must also accept that no country on Earth would tolerate being split in two without the right to self-determination or a say in the matter. If you disagree, imagine if tomorrow the United Nations decided half of your country would go to another nation of people -- while you have no say in the matter. In short, Palestine served as a haven for Jewish refugees before Israel's creation. It is important to draw on this history when trying to find common ground for the future.

have you read this yet @Webster? :|
 
An honest Israeli Jew tells the Real Truth about Israel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etXAm-OylQQ

Miko Peled was born in Jersusalem into a famous and influential Israeli Zionist family. His father was a famous General in the Israeli Army, of which Miko also served his time. When Miko's niece was killed by Palestinian suicide bombers, you may have expected the family to put Palestinians at fault, but surprisingly they blamed the state of Israel, and their violent torturing and persecution for driving people to such sadness that they would take their own lives.

Through his father's deep knowledge of the Israeli war of terror, together with his own research, Miko Peled ruins the myths surrounding the Israel and Palestine situation, and delivers a truth so damning that many Jews and Israel supporters will not be able to bear it. He reveals facts such as the original expelled Jews are not the ones returning, and they are not their descendants either, covers the double standards regarding the right of return, which doesn't apply to Palestinians, and dispels the myth that there has been a conflict for ages by producing proof that it was peaceful up until 1947 when Israel launched their illegal attacks.

Miko is just one of the many modern day Jews against Zionism and the state of Israel, and with the information he delivers in this astounding talk, it is not difficult to see why more and more Jews are rejecting Zionism and calling for the dismantling of Israel. It is a true eye-opener for anyone who has for too long been blinded by the fake misinformation given by the mainstream media, and the truths come straight from the heartland where he has spent many years documenting the real story.
 

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