UN: LGBTQ Equality In America "Not Within Reach"

[Webster]

That respect goes both ways including not hurting children.

How do you define that, by letting them be themselves and not forcing them to fit into our pre-conceived notions of gender?

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

They did it with gay & lesbian people for decades and decades (I came out in July 1993, so I know a bit about the old bigotries) and now they're going after trans people. Its' sick and disgusting; worse, I get it from multiple sides because (a) I used to be a conservative and (b) I'm also a practicing Christian (Seventh-Day Adventist, if you must ask).

No one is going after those people, your playing victim because you are not getting your way on something they should not get their way on. What is the fucking desire to go after innocent children so much!

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

How do you define that, by letting them be themselves and not forcing them to fit into our pre-conceived notions of gender?

Pumping minors still developing is hurting them. It can’t be reversed if they decide being themselves isn’t what they wanted. This desire to not protect children until they are adults is satanic

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Jesus, the wife wants to go out for wine and I think I’m going to have quite a few beers.

 

[Webster]

Jesus, the wife wants to go out for wine and I think I’m going to have quite a few beers.

Just don't drive anywhere, that would be bad.

 

[Webster]

Pumping minors still developing is hurting them. It can’t be reversed if they decide being themselves isn’t what they wanted. This desire to not protect children until they are adults is satanic

Care to change your bullshit comment, sir?

In January, papers were lodged at the British High Court against the Tavistock and Portman NHS Trust, which runs the UK’s only gender identity development service (GIDS).

The claimants against the Trust want to establish a legal minimum age of 18 for puberty blocking hormone therapy for young people diagnosed with gender dysphoria, with their lawyers arguing that it is illegal to prescribe the drugs to anyone younger as they cannot give informed consent to the treatment.

The case has been brought about by the parent of a 15-year-old on the GIDS waiting list known as Mrs A, who does not believe children can understand the ramifications of taking puberty blockers. Alongside her is a 23-year-old woman named Keira Bell, who transitioned to male as a teenager but has since detransitioned and believes she should have been challenged more by GIDS during the process.

So-called puberty blockers, known formally as gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH) antagonists, are medications that cause the body to stop producing sex hormones. They are delivered either as leuprorelin injections, which are administered by a healthcare worker every three months, or via a histrelin implant, which needs to be replaced annually.

The GnRH antagonists bind to receptors in the pituitary gland, blocking the release of luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) from the anterior pituitary. This leads to suppression of testosterone production in the testes or the suppression of estradiol and progesterone production from the ovaries, depending on the anatomy of the individual taking them.

For young trans people, taking these drugs will prevent things like breast tissue development and periods, or the growth of facial hair and a deepening voice. The effects of drugs are completely reversible, and if a person stops taking them their body will resume sex hormone production as it had done before they started.

As well as being used to suppress puberty in gender-questioning youth, they’re used from the age of six onwards for the management of precocious puberty, when a child’s body enters adolescence too early. GnRH antagonists are also used to treat prostate cancer, as part of IVF fertility treatment and for the management of uterine disorders such as endometriosis or fibroids. They’re even being investigated as a treatment for women with hormone-sensitive breast cancer, as a treatment for benign prostatic hyperplasia and as a potential contraceptive.

 

[PGen98]

No one is going after those people, your playing victim because you are not getting your way on something they should not get their way on. What is the fucking desire to go after innocent children so much!

There isn't a desire to go after children from anyone but the right.

Pumping this rhetoric was old hat at the start and it remains so now.

 

[Scarlet Rose]

I don’t see it as part of gender. No, culture changed, style changed on what boys and girls like.

That is literally what gender is. The cultural and social understandings. Or should we invent a third word to refer to these? If so what value is there in having two words that refer to the biology and one word which refers to the sociocultural? Would it not make more sense to have one referring to the sociocultural and the other referring to the biological? It is common practice when performing cross cultural studies to refer to cultural understandings of what it means to be a man or woman across societies as being gender and the biological as being sex.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

That is literally what gender is. The cultural and social understandings.

It isn’t, gender is a constant it can’t just be rearranged for your liking and how you feel that day.

Or should we invent a third word to refer to these?

You can invent whatever you want, since the community enjoys doing that already.

If so what value is there in having two words that refer to the biology and one word which refers to the sociocultural?

None! unless you have a desire to make society fall apart

Would it not make more sense to have one referring to the sociocultural and the other referring to the biological?

Trying to make something that can never be is not a good idea no!

It is common practice when performing cross cultural studies to refer to cultural understandings of what it means to be a man or woman across societies as being gender and the biological as being sex.

Actual women! Actual men! 😂

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

There isn't a desire to go after children from anyone but the right.

Ya that’s a big fat lie! We ain’t damaging children for life or trying to murder children before they are born. 🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥 ten Pinocchios for you.

Pumping this rhetoric was old hat at the start and it remains so now.

You mean it’s frustrating because it’s getting back to more parents as they find out. It’s why every school district in Florida including democrat areas is now ran by conservatives. Parents are sick of it.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Care to change your bullshit comment, sir?

Since it’s becoming a billion dollar industry to fuck up kids no, no I don’t. But you justify your personal beliefs however you want as kids futures are ruined before they even start. And we’re not talking about some other countries laws and you damn well know it.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Just don't drive anywhere, that would be bad.

We have a place literally walking distance from our home. Anyways the most I drink is two beers when little times I do.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

There isn't a desire to go after children from anyone but the right.

Pumping this rhetoric was old hat at the start and it remains so now.

Because this isn’t going after children from the left.
Because this isn’t physically harming children that the left promotes.
Because this isn’t sexually exploiting children.
This a horror show of disfiguring children and everyone in that room should never see daylight again.

If a young kid can give a example of how to do ketamine it’s just another level of abuse

 

[Prometheus]

So, I have a question. If it's just about having yourself be respected for your decision to change who you are, which has always been the case, why does it seem that there's always something more being asked? Why do I have to refer to you by your pronouns? I don't care what you identify as. You are a person and if you wanted to be an alien with three boobs, great! But I'm not going to go out of my way to call you alien or xenomorph, you are whatever I perceive you to be and the constitution protects my ability to do so.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Every one of these hospitals should be shutdown and every person involved should be locked up.​

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At Least 13 U.S. Hospitals Perform Gender Transition Surgeries on Minors.​

After Libs of TikTok exposed the Boston Children’s Hospital last week for performing gender transition surgeries on minors, the hospital rushed to contain the fallout, revising its website to remove the evidence. Leftist media organizations pitched in, with formerly credible news organizations running “fact checks” debunking the claim and articles designed to twist the narrative into one about “threats” made against the hospital, rather than the outrageous behavior that provoked them. Facebook also piled on, permanently suspending Libs of TikTok without warning or explanation. Even the American Academy of Pediatrics went into damage control mode.
Yet it is inarguably true that Boston Children’s Hospital has performed gender transition surgeries on minors. A peer-reviewed study published this March in the Journal of Clinical Medicine used as its dataset 204 gender transition surgeries performed by Center for Gender Surgery (CfGS) at Boston Children’s Hospital from January 2017 to August 2020, in which 65 (around a third) were under the age of 18. The researchers explained that CfGS “was the first pediatric center in the United States to offer gender-affirming chest surgeries for individuals over 15-years-old and genital surgeries for those over 17 years of age.”
With the evident potential for outrage and the high stakes at play, major media organizations have curiously avoided digging deeper into the issue. Since the Boston Children’s Hospital scandal, only a trickle of reporting on other hospitals has appeared in lesser-known outlets, with such sensational revelations as Seattle Children’s Hospital transitioning children as young as nine, and a division head at the Ann & Robert H. Lurie Children’s Hospital of Chicago admitting they perform gender transition procedures based upon “anecdotal evidence.”
These three are only the tip of the iceberg. According to research compiled by The Washington Stand (see below), at least 13 hospitals — mostly children’s hospitals — in the United States perform gender transition surgeries on minors. Many of these are among approximately 60 “clinical care programs” promoting gender transitions “for transgender and gender-expansive youth,” according to the pro-transgender-ideology Human Rights Campaign, nationwide.
While legal in most states, performing gender transition surgery on minors violates even the practices suggested by transgender activists themselves. According to “Standards of Care” published by a transgender advocacy group, World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH), “age of majority in any country” is a requirement for any type of gender transition surgery (although they leave some ambiguity regarding “top” surgeries, which attempt to reshape a person’s chest to appear as the opposite gender). “Bottom” surgeries, which remove genitals and therefore permanently sterilize a person are even further out-of-bounds. WPATH classifies both types of gender transition surgery as irreversible.
Below is the list of hospitals with their gender clinics, which perform gender transition surgeries on minors, based upon their own websites. These are sorted alphabetically by state.

1. The UCLA Gender Health Program’s pediatric practice (Los Angeles, Calif.) includes “puberty suppression therapy” and “hormone replacement therapy.” It also features “gender affirmation surgery.” According to their website, “most surgical procedures are not recommended until adulthood,” which implies that at least some gender transition surgical procedures may be performed prior to adulthood.

1. The Gender Clinic at Stanford Medicine Children’s Health (Palo Alto, Calif.) treats both minors and “adults 18 years and older,” offering “puberty blockers and gender affirming hormones.” They provide gender transition surgery to “adolescents and young adults,” touting their “innovative surgical techniques” and “state-of-the-art operating suites.” They boldly state their not-so-medical opinion that “everyone deserves to have their physical body reflect their gender identity.”

1. The Division of Plastic Surgery at Connecticut Children’s Hospital (Hartford, Conn.) “offers surgical options for gender affirmation to adolescents.” Their Gender Programrecommends parents contact them “when puberty begins” for a range of treatments including “puberty blockers” and “hormone therapy.” They also link to various gender dysphoria support groups, including a Hartford group for ages 16-26 and a Bridgeport group for ages 13-24. In these support groups, children could develop close, emotional bonds to adults who are not relatives.

1. The Essence Clinic at St. Luke’s Children’s Hospital (Boise, Id.) offers “hormonal therapy, including puberty blockers” and “surgical consultations and referrals” to “children, adolescents, and young adults.” Two of its five providers specialize in surgery.

1. The Gender Development Program at the Ann & Robert H. Lurie Children’s Hospital of Chicago (Chicago, Ill., Westchester, Ill.) offers “gender-affirming surgery referrals” for “children and adolescents,” who may “begin care with us up to age 22.” They say they “work closely with several surgeons who are experienced in this type of care and can provide more information and referrals for patients seeking these services.” However, their 19-member gender development team includes two pediatric surgeons, a pediatric plastic surgeon, and an attending physician of plastic and reconstructive surgery, and one of their three locationsis a “surgical treatment center,” making it likely that they perform surgeries in-house.

1. At the University of Illinois Hospital (Chicago, Ill.), “gender affirming surgery” is systematically interwoven into their surgical department, with no division between surgeons performing gender transition procedures and surgeons performing other types of plastic surgeries, and seemingly no division in care between children and adults. As an example, the program’s director “focuses on the reconstructive needs of infants, children, adolescents, and young adults up to age 25” and “specializes with adolescents and young adults in the realm of chest reconstruction, including asymmetric breasts, oversized breasts (female macromastia and male gynecomastia), and top surgery.”

1. The Boston Children’s Hospital (Boston, Mass.) has offered “gender-affirming chest surgeries for individuals over 15 years old” (see above).

1. The Child and Adolescent Transgender Center for Health at Boston Medical Center (Boston, Mass.) provides “access to onsite hormone blockers,” “gender-affirming hormone therapy,” and “referral to … other Center for Transgender Medicine and Surgery services” for “children, adolescents, and young adults.” The Center for Transgender Medicine and Surgery presents a “unified structure” for all “gender affirming care.” An anonymous testimonial on their website indicates they perform transgender surgeries on minors, “As a parent of a child going through the transgender experience, I have found valuable information on this site. After the surgery, I will be caring for him/her at my home.”

1. The Gender and Sexuality Service at NYU Langone’s Hassenfeld Children’s Hospital (New York, N.Y.) will perform “gender-affirming medical interventions” on a “child, adolescent, or young adult,” working with health insurers “to obtain approvals for presurgical and surgical procedures.” The sizable “Gender and Sexuality Service Team” of nearly 19 doctors include four who represent plastic and reconstructive surgery.

1. Golisano Children’s Hospital, associated with University of Rochester Medicine, (Rochester, N.Y.) features “gender health services” to “youth and young adults” including “cross-gender hormone therapy,” “pubertal blockade,” and “surgical services” with three surgeons listed.

1. Doernbecher Children’s Hospital (Portland, Ore., Beaverton, Ore.) offers “a full range of services for transgender and gender-nonconforming children and teens,” including hormone treatments, surgery, and handouts with tips on how to appear more like the opposite sex. They “evaluate surgery for teens on an individual basis.”

1. The Gender Clinic at Seattle Children’s Hospital (Seattle, Wash.) accepts “new patients ages 9 to 16.” The services they provide include “puberty blockers,” “gender-affirming hormones,” and “gender-affirming surgery.” While gender transition procedures for minors require parental consent, “Washington state privacy laws limit parent and caregiver access to adolescents’ health information. … The patient chooses whether to consent to releasing medical information.”

1. The Gender Health Clinic at Children’s Wisconsin (Milwaukee, Wisc.) focuses on “children and youth” and “will meet with new patients through age 16.” They offer “puberty-suppressing hormone therapy, gender-affirming hormone therapy, surgical treatments, and speech/voice training.” They refer patients 17 or older to “an adult hormone provider.”

At Least 13 U.S. Hospitals Perform Gender Transition Surgeries on Minors

After Libs of TikTok exposed the Boston Children's Hospital for performing gender transition surgeries on minors, the hospital rushed to contain the fallout, re

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[Webster]

Every one of these hospitals should be shutdown and every person involved should be locked up.

 

[PGen98]

So, I have a question. If it's just about having yourself be respected for your decision to change who you are, which has always been the case, why does it seem that there's always something more being asked? Why do I have to refer to you by your pronouns? I don't care what you identify as. You are a person and if you wanted to be an alien with three boobs, great! But I'm not going to go out of my way to call you alien or xenomorph, you are whatever I perceive you to be and the constitution protects my ability to do so.

Who has asked you to do that? I prefer to be called as who I am, but you could call me Batman for all I care, it only reflects your ignorance, not my own.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Who has asked you to do that? I prefer to be called as who I am, but you could call me Batman for all I care, it only reflects your ignorance, not my own.

Quite a bit.

 

[PGen98]

Quite a bit.

Yes, for some women it's important to be seen as who they are. I know people like to deliberately misgender to insult and get under the skin of trans women, and some of those women react accordingly. Most of us are numb to it, because our own brains tell us, day in and day out, that we'll always be freaks, monsters, imposters, etc. But if that's not enough, we get the people on the right screaming it at us constantly as if we're blissfully unaware of the fact that we can't biologically change our sex chromosomes from a Y to an X. That's not the end goal. The end goal is trying to make the pain stop, to finally feel comfortable in our own skin and live as close to an authentic life as we possibly can. To the right that's laughable and worthy of derision, but that's only indicative of their ignorance, their lack of common decency.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Yes, for some women it's important to be seen as who they are. I know people like to deliberately misgender to insult and get under the skin of trans women, and some of those women react accordingly. Most of us are numb to it, because our own brains tell us, day in and day out, that we'll always be freaks, monsters, imposters, etc. But if that's not enough, we get the people on the right screaming it at us constantly as if we're blissfully unaware of the fact that we can't biologically change our sex chromosomes from a Y to an X. That's not the end goal. The end goal is trying to make the pain stop, to finally feel comfortable in our own skin and live as close to an authentic life as we possibly can. To the right that's laughable and worthy of derision, but that's only indicative of their ignorance, their lack of common decency.

Nope! Don’t find it funny nor do most conservatives. We’re laughing at the guy for having a outrage because we see a man as a man and then the man gets upset. Not laughing at him for what he wants to be but can never be. We find that just sad.