UN: LGBTQ Equality In America "Not Within Reach"

[Webster]

Rob Schneider is...The Serafin. Rated PG-13.

Does that mean Gina Carano will be playing Mrs. Serafin?

 

[PGen98]

Does that mean Gina Carano will be playing Mrs. Serafin?

Not a bad idea!

 

[Scarlet Rose]

Among real women and men there is.

Every culture believes that they are interpreting reality as it is. That is how cultures work by normalizing their beliefs and values. This is especially the case with gender.

No!

The world has seen a vast quantity of different cultures, we have also seen cultures changing through the passage of time. Cultures don't remain static but change and adapt. Consequently there has been variation in how people perceive and understand themselves and the world around them.

The evolution of the diversity of cultures

The abundant evidence that Homo sapiens evolved in Africa within the past 200 000 years, and dispersed across the world only within the past 100 000 years, provides us with a strong framework in which to consider the evolution of human diversity. While ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Price's Atlas of Ethnographic Societies [11] records over 3814 distinct cultures having been described by anthropologists, certainly a major underestimate.

Again actual men and women not believing something you can’t be.

What is or isn't an actual man or woman is going to be based on cultural understandings.

You did just that invent words, well a group of people have not you, you just believe something that simply is not true.

As I said before, all words are invented. So it is only possible for me to use words that have been invented. You, yourself, are also using words that have been invented. Every single word you have used was invented.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

@WHO IS SERAFIN

Aww you were finally aligning your quotes properly. Do I need to whip you like they did in the 1800's?


Please try.




Webster and I gave US and UK links respectively. Are you saying you don't care about what happens in those two countries?



Good then show us the quotes. Because you haven’t.

Correct! I don’t care as in far as it doesn’t affect our way of life.


Put your wife's boyfriend on the line man.
He's much more sensible than you I'm sure.


Is that the best you got😂. I love it! It means I’ve frustrated you like the little bitch you are. But I would like the quotes I asked for.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

Every culture believes that they are interpreting reality as it is.




No reality just is. You just can’t be something because you wish it to be.




That is how cultures work by normalizing their beliefs and values.


Exactly values and beliefs. Not actual science. What you want to believe I guess could fall under a religion. Can’t prove it to be true but you think it is.





This is especially the case with gender.



No! Gender is no such thing it’s factual and pretending to be something you can’t is not factual, it’s made up nonsense you are trying to include in gender.





The world has seen a vast quantity of different cultures,




Yes that have lived in reality with gender.




we have also seen cultures changing through the passage of time.



Again no made up genders.




Cultures don't remain static but change and adapt.



Again with no made up genders.




Consequently there has been variation in how people perceive and understand themselves and the world around them.




Repeat and rinse.

The evolution of the diversity of cultures

The abundant evidence that Homo sapiens evolved in Africa within the past 200 000 years, and dispersed across the world only within the past 100 000 years, provides us with a strong framework in which to consider the evolution of human diversity. While ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

What is or isn't an actual man or woman is going to be based on cultural understandings.

As I said before, all words are invented. So it is only possible for me to use words that have been invented. You, yourself, are also using words that have been invented. Every single word you have used was invented.

 

[Webster]

*looks at Serafin's last two posts* What. The. Hell?!?

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

*looks at Serafin's last two posts* What. The. Hell?!?

You just made me feel and identify as absolutely correct with that statement 😂

 

[Webster]

You just made me feel and identify as absolutely correct with that statement 😂

I couldn't figure out what the hell you were saying, Serafin.... 🤣😂🤣

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

I couldn't figure out what the hell you were saying, Serafin.... 🤣😂🤣

I think you could.

 

[Scarlet Rose]

No reality just is. You just can’t be something because you wish it to be.

It is more complicated than that. We don't experience reality unmediated. Our cultures go a long way in influencing the way we perceive and understand reality. It isn't a matter of wishing something to be a certain way. This simply is the way people are.

Exactly values and beliefs. Not actual science. What you want to believe I guess could fall under a religion. Can’t prove it to be true but you think it is.

The existence of cross-cultural and historical variation is very easy to prove. As my a quote from my last post asserted there are over 3,814 different distinct cultures.

Yes that have lived in reality with gender.

They have lived with their interpretations and understandings of gender which has shown historical and cultural variation. Like I have already mentioned what gender means, how it is experienced and even how many genders there are has shown variation across cultures and history. Your lack of familiarity with cross cultural and historical studies does not refute their existence. Anthropologists have been studying them for over 150 years now. They weren't the first to be aware of cultural differences either. Nor are they the only ones who study them today. They did however pioneer a lot of the more detailed and in-depth field research techniques.

Again with no made up genders.

People don't just freely make up genders. Rather they are acquired through processes of enculturation and embodiment. Thus it is dependent in large part on sociocultural understandings which are themselves historically contingent.

 

[Vaeve]

No please show me what I actually asked.

But I would like the quotes I asked for.

But you didn’t actually take the time to share any quotes

This is how I know you don't read, you sleezy cunt. I kept saying "I gave a source" and you're like "NO WHERE ARE THE QUOTES?" They are IN the fucking source. Why do you think I keep mentioning them?

 

[Webster]

This is how I know you don't read, you sleezy cunt. I kept saying "I gave a source" and you're like "NO WHERE ARE THE QUOTES?" They are IN the fucking source. Why do you think I keep mentioning them?

"....hello, 911, I'd like to report a murder; victim's name is Serafin..." 🤣

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

It is more complicated than that.




It really isn’t two sexes two genders.




We don't experience reality unmediated.



When it comes to this we certainly do.



Our cultures go a long way in influencing the way we perceive and understand reality.



Not when it comes to this absolute reality.



It isn't a matter of wishing something to be a certain way.



That’s exactly what is being implied and what they want, they want to wish to be something they can’t be.




This simply is the way people are.



For many things but not this long standing basic fact.





The existence of cross-cultural and historical variation is very easy to prove.




Not with genders it ain’t.




As my a quote from my last post asserted there are over 3,814 different distinct cultures.



Culture and gender are universal, 2 genders.




They have lived with their interpretations and understandings of gender which has shown historical and cultural variation.


No it hasn’t.




Like I have already mentioned what gender means,





Male and female. Not made up male and female.







how it is experienced and even how many genders there are has shown variation across cultures and history.




It hasn’t.




Your lack of familiarity with cross cultural and historical studies does not refute their existence.



Bullshit refutes it.




Anthropologists have been studying them for over 150 years now.



They studied actual male and females in culture for 150 years.






They weren't the first to be aware of cultural differences either.



Cultural differences yes, not this discussion.





Nor are they the only ones who study them today.



I’m sure others have discussed male and female roles in culture.




They did however pioneer a lot of the more detailed and in-depth field research techniques.



Agreed just not this.





People don't just freely make up genders.




That is exactly and specifically what they do.




Rather they are acquired through processes of enculturation and embodiment.



My god😳!






Thus it is dependent in large part on sociocultural understandings which are themselves historically contingent.





No it’s dependent on a individual and what’s going on inside there brain.

 

[PGen98]

...is it just me or does Serafin now sound like one of those kids holding his hands over his ears and screaming "I'm not listening! I'm not listening!"...

Don't agree with what is scientifically backed to be true, so just dismiss it out of hand in ignorance.

 

[Webster]

...is it just me or does Serafin now sound like one of those kids holding his hands over his ears and screaming "I'm not listening! I'm not listening!"...

Don't agree with what is scientifically backed to be true, so just dismiss it out of hand in ignorance.

Pretty much, yeah.

 

[Scarlet Rose]

It really isn’t two sexes two genders.

Like I have already mentioned the amount of genders present in society shows cross cultural and historical variation.

Not when it comes to this absolute reality.

On the contrary, gender is quite possibly one of the most demonstrative facts of the sociocultural influencing the way we perceive and understand reality. Quite often the way genders are perceived and experienced relates significantly to a society. It has webs which imbue and draw meaning from a wide portion of the society in question.

Not with genders it ain’t.

It is and has already been done countless times. Again, your lack of familiarity with the data and literature does not refute its existence.

No it’s dependent on a individual and what’s going on inside there brain.

Which is itself heavily influenced by sociocultural and historical factors. Primarily through enculturation and embodiment.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

It is more complicated than that.





It’s not, fake and pretending is not complicated.






We don't experience reality unmediated.



Yes we do.




Our cultures go a long way in influencing the way we perceive and understand reality.



Reality is the key word. Our current society has the largest epidemic of mental illness the world has ever seen.





It isn't a matter of wishing something to be a certain way.



But yet that’s what is happening, wishing and a lot of it by mutilation of bodies.






This simply is the way people are.



This is a crisis.






The existence of cross-cultural and historical variation is very easy to prove.





Yes, we have always had a tiny segment of the population that has issues.






As my a quote from my last post asserted there are over 3,814 different distinct cultures.



Cultures, not a culture faking who they are and can never be.






They have lived with their interpretations



Facts.




and understandings of gender





There is no understanding it’s always been two. Anything is a birth defect.





which has shown historical and cultural variation.



No!




Like I have already mentioned what gender means,



And you are wrong.






how it is experienced and even how many genders there are has shown variation across cultures and history.



Male and female nothing else.



Your lack of familiarity with cross cultural and historical studies does not refute their existence.


No lack of anything you are making up fake history.




Anthropologists have been studying them for over 150 years now.





They have been studying, we can agree on that.






They weren't the first to be aware of cultural differences either.



Cultural differences yes not fake sexes.






Nor are they the only ones who study them today.




Culture yes.






They did however pioneer a lot of the more detailed and in-depth field research techniques.



Agree, but not agree 😂





People don't just freely make up genders.




This is exactly what they are doing, this a mental disorder.





Rather they are acquired through processes of enculturation and embodiment.



Mumbo jumbo nonsense.





Thus it is dependent in large part on sociocultural understandings which are themselves historically contingent.






No it’s dependent on the health of our overall society and the people within it.

 

[WHO IS SERAFIN]

...is it just me or does Serafin now sound like one of those kids holding his hands over his ears and screaming "I'm not listening! I'm not listening!"...


Listening to people who are wrong, you nailed it!




Don't agree with what is scientifically backed to be true,



Scientific 😂😂 True😆😆





so just dismiss it out of hand in ignorance.

 

[PGen98]

Good to see you back and as dismissive as ever

 

[Webster]

Good to see you back and as dismissive as ever

I'm just trying to figure out what his answers are....