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Opinion of Obama

A great religion?
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Now, I'm not debating religion, I'm debating what Obama said about Islam, and comparing it to the United States founding rights.



Our Declaration of Independence states the following:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal...



Obama supports this religion, and calls it great, but here's a known fact about their faith:

* Muhammad commands Muslim men to beat their wives if they don't obey them.



How can Obama call that a great religion in accordance to our Declaration of Independence? I hope he doesn't beat the First Lady.



Dude... I could pull shit out of Leviticus that is far worse. Jesus himself said to bring the non-believers before him so he can slay them.
 
This is not a religious debate, as Jazzy previously stated. We need to focus on Obama and his religious beliefs; comparing Islam to other religions isn't about Obama or the debate. This isn't a comparison over religion, this is a debate over Obama and his personal beliefs towards the two religions, and how it impacted his candidacy then and now.
 
This isn't a comparison over religion, this is a debate over Obama and his personal beliefs towards the two religions, and how it impacted his candidacy then and now.



If its not a comparison of religion you should be equally outraged if he called judaism a great religion, or Hinduism a great religion.



Not Fox News, we all know they're nothing but a bunch of haters.



Do you really believe Fox news is a news channel at all? If so, I feel sorry for you.



Fox News is simply an adjunct of the Republican Party engineered by Rupert Murdoch. It is a political engine that sensationalizes everything, there is no journalism going on there. Fox News is fighting a war on journalism and their success has also forced the other cable networks to deteriorate in quality in order to get higher ratings. Fox portrays everything in a way that benefits the Republican party, their memos that go out to their anchors say so. Once they find a story that is bad for the democrats, they put out a memo saying This should be a prime story for Fox News today and in the days to come.



And as for that link, that is a very biased editorial. But interesting stuff. I personally think that the American people are just haters and they want to be able to blame Obama for stuff that he has inherited and for failing to fix all of it. He has done a hell of a lot for jobs... its just not enough, but he has not been in office that long. A year in a half guys. How can that guy fault him for not dealing with immigration? That's something that no one has touched for decades and something that congress should be capable of fixing entirely on their own.
 
Temerit said:
Do you really believe Fox news is a news channel at all? If so, I feel sorry for you.



I personally think that the American people are just haters





A. Fox News' ratings would seem to indicate otherwise when compared to MSNBC and the other cable news networks.



B. I really don't care how you feel.



C. That other statement just shows that you really are ignorant.



Now, pardon me while I go cling to my guns and religion.
 
Exactly, exactly, and exactly. Obama is a politician, not a president. Smooth, I completely agree with you. He's created very few jobs if you look at the entire picture. He's saved a few jobs with his bailout plans, but he's created an even greater debt, spending money we don't have. We are 13-14 trillion dollars in debt, and if Obama keeps giving, giving, giving, we're going to save our jobs for now, but we'll have borrowed so much money from other countries, we'll be breaking ties and trust with all of them. Stop the spending, stop the giving. Hire workers to build bridges, roads, and highways, but please, stop this useless spending and giving away money we do not have. Fund schools and education, stop giving GM (government motors) more and more money to stall time to keep their jobs. That's their business, let them figure it out. Unless you're going to bailout every business in America, singling out a few out of a hat isn't right, and it does nothing for the long term solution to our problem.
 
DrLeftover said:
[quote name='Temerit']Do you really believe Fox news is a news channel at all? If so, I feel sorry for you.



I personally think that the American people are just haters





A. Fox News' ratings would seem to indicate otherwise when compared to MSNBC and the other cable news networks.



B. I really don't care how you feel.



C. That other statement just shows that you really are ignorant.



Now, pardon me while I go cling to my guns and religion.[/quote]



A question: Why did you omit the vast majority of my post and link together two completely unrelated pieces of information?



Ratings does not determine quality, not in the least. Fox News just portrays everything in a way that a conservative wants to hear it.



I'm curious as to what that other statement is.



But if you really think that Fox News is a news channel in any form or fashion.... you really need to re-think your views. I can understand someone being conservative, but damn dude, Fox is biased, no two ways about it. Watch the documentary for yourself.



Or read my blog article: http://progressiveyouth.wordpress.com/2010/07/19/the-new-mass-media/#comments



John Stewart Debunking the Legitimacy of Megan Kelly's America Live as a legitimate news program: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-march-3-2010/anchor-management



The Project on Excellence in Journalism report in 2006 showed that 68 percent of Fox cable stories contained personal opinions, as compared to MSNBC at 27 percent and CNN at 4 percent. The “content analysis” portion of their 2005 report also concluded that “Fox was measurably more one-sided than the other networks, and Fox journalists were more opinionated on the air.”



A study by the Program on International Policy Attitudes (PIPA), in the Winter 03-04 issue of Political Science Quarterly, reported that viewers of Fox News, the Fox Broadcasting Company, and local Fox affiliates were more likely than viewers of other news networks to hold three mis perceptions:



67% of Fox viewers believed that the “U.S. has found clear evidence in Iraq that Saddam Hussein was working closely with the al Qaeda terrorist organization” (Compared with 56% for CBS, 49% for NBC, 48% for CNN, 45% for ABC, 16% for NPR/PBS).

The belief that “The U.S. has found Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq” was held by 33% of Fox viewers and only 23% of CBS viewers, 19% for ABC, 20% for NBC, 20% for CNN and 11% for NPR/PBS

35% of Fox viewers believed that “the majority of people [in the world] favor the U.S. having gone to war” with Iraq. (Compared with 28% for CBS, 27% for ABC, 24% for CNN, 20% for NBC, 5% for NPR/PBS)



Fox also tends to jack up its ratings by cutting business deals with certain companies, so that the business will turn their T.V.s onto Fox News.



When you look at ratings that look simply at the number of viewers it is much more even between Fox, CNN, and MSNBC. Fox viewers simply sit and get brainwashed for a much longer period of time than CNN and MSNBC viewers.



And its great that you don't care how I feel, but if you don't care you could have disregarded that one sentence and focused on the rest of the information which wasn't opinion.



DrLeftover said:
What's Mr. Obama's opinion on the new Mosque?



He was for it before he was against it? maybe?



I haven't seen anything that would suggest that he was ever against it.
 
Well since Obama took office, the stock market has stabilized significantly, the U.S. dollar has gained value significantly, and job loss has ceased and we've actually lowered the unemployment rate overall.
 
Temerit said:
Well since Obama took office, the stock market has stabilized significantly, the U.S. dollar has gained value significantly, and job loss has ceased and we've actually lowered the unemployment rate overall.



Significantly? Wouldn't go that far. Job loss has ceased? People are still losing their jobs around here left and right. Businesses aren't making any money, therefore, closing down, losing employees. Lowered unemployment rate overall? I believe it rose to 9.7% in July, so wouldn't say it's really being lowered.
 
Job loss has ceased? People are still losing their jobs around here left and right.



But huge net losses have turned into net gains.



Businesses aren't making any money.



Well that is a blanket statement and cannot possibly be true. There are many companies that are making money. The small business I work for, Kids Club Fun & Fitness is doing fine.



Lowered unemployment rate overall? I believe it rose to 9.7% in July, so wouldn't say it's really being lowered.



Woops, I got that wrong. But a little fun fact:



Obama inherited 8.1% unemployment rate, and amid recession and two left-over wars, the unemployment rate is now 9.5%. 7 an 1/2 years more left to reduce it.



Bush inherited a 4% unemployment rate and more than DOUBLED it when he left office to 8.1%
 
^ That's a very interesting article. In my opinion, Obama shouldn't be taking any vacations at the moment. There's much to do. But I laugh at their comparison between the 20 days of vacation Obama has had so far in office and this about Bush:



President George W. Bush spent a total of 879 days on holiday in his eight years in office, according to Mark Knoller of CBS, the unofficial statistician of the presidency.

Mr Bush was usually working at his Prairie Chapel ranch in Texas, which was named the “Western White House” during his long summers there when he was accompanied by dozens of staff.



No wonder the man never got anything done right... Even so, I hope something of national importance happens while Obama is on vacation and makes him return to his presidential duties. This guy has been seen having a good time a little too much recently...
 
Let me ask you all something. If you were Obama what would you be doing?
 
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